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Moos3d · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 73 0.00 Silvarrr

For a pubby "LLD" would there but much of an advantage to 31 vs 29? Nightmare rushed.

I was thinking if 31 would give me a big enough advantage it would be worth going up two levels if I build a smiter. But, the only real changes I see are that I can use rockstopper which should be nice against melee though pcrown is godly and I can use sexy 15% IAS jewels. Anything I'm missing? I just don't think the IAS jewels are rockstopper are even better than what I can get at 29 but I don't know squat about smiters.

Jerkazoid · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject:

the +2 combat mods and levels add about 4-5 more HS

and fanatasism takes that speed/dmg up too

Moos3d · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 73 0.00 Silvarrr

So you would say 31 is worth it? I was thinking with all the levels you could put in concentration it would be better. What kind of gear could I use on a pretty tight budget?

Weapon - No Idea
Helmet - Pcrown/Rockstopper/3 Socket (Jewels?)
Armor - Upgraded Twitch (Jewel?)
Shield - Rhyme Barb
Belt - String of Ears
Boots - Sanders/CK
Gloves - Bloodfist (Upgraded?)
Rings - SoJs but they're too expensive so I need alternative.
Amulet - +1 Pally Other Mod Ammy

Thats close to what my 29 in open uses. Just copy/paste that and fill in what you think I should use if you have the time.

T_Maldo · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 6:33 pm Post subject:

THe shield i'd say u'd want a hawk-branded barbed of deflecting
The ammy go for a +2pcombat

Moos3d · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 73 0.00 Silvarrr

Problem with that shield is rarity and no CBF.

This is hardcore by the way.

Jerkazoid · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject:

Ladder HC? a spirit akaran rondache(30) should be good. +2 ALL skills so it add to fanata as well

if it has 50-60% ed as well those 2 skil points should make up the dmg lost from barbed

Weapon - some +skills 20-30 ias scepter (shoppable)
or steel/strength runeword = affordable
Helmet - Rockstopper sounds good
Armor - Upgraded Twitch.. sure why not
Shield - Rhyme Barb ok
Belt - String of Ears sure
Boots - Sanders boots / upped goblins for crushing
Gloves - Bloodfist (Upgraded?)

use angelics for the dtm and 95 life, also in case u need to charge, the ar helps

a +2combat ammy(30) to buff hs is good though
eye of eltich if u got laying around

on HC i dont think a smiter will ever get an ear

Moos3d · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 73 0.00 Silvarrr

Yeah, it's ladder HC. The one problem is that if I don't use rhyme barbed I won't get the CBF which would ruin a smiter. Can I use spirit for HS prebuff? Why don't you think I will get an ear though. I don't really care if I everyone chickens out but I'm more looking to just embarass and own them than I am to actually kill them. As long as I don't get owned all the time and don't die I'm cool.

Jerkazoid · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject:

u can use the deaths sash or spirit shroud for CBF if u go with a something other then rhyme.

the +2spirit as buf is fine.. u dont get the +2 to your fanata as well.. but spirits are GREAT buffs... make a shield and sword for +4hs ^^

Moos3d · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 73 0.00 Silvarrr

Already got a nice sword or two. I figure I could use like a targe or something since ED/Res are useless for prebuff. I just personally think that twitch and rock are greater than spirit is better than rhyme. Couldn't think of any way to phrase that sentence right, lol. Losing twitch/rock would be a greater sacrafice then losing spirit would I guess is good phrasing. What kind of socketing are we talking about on armor/helm/weapon? I hear ED off armor works but doesn't display.

Hades · Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Posts: 958 0.00 Silvarrr

check out your speeds. at lvl 30 + use a +2 combat skills/3 conc+ 30 ias warscepter and shael twice, my firend uses one of these but instead of the 30ias he has one of 5% amp dmg. to hit the last break point u will need 129% ias.. so 10% from bloodfists, 20% twitch, 30% from magic warscepter, 20% shael, 20% shael. = 100% ias socket 2 15 ias jewels = 130% thats if you went for concentration instead of fanaticism.

Moos3d · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 73 0.00 Silvarrr

You know, why didn't I think of this before? I can use a spirit sword, it will give me a nice boost to aura and combats, insane 55% FHR, huge mana and great vitality. Then what I can do is I can socket the twitch and rockstopper with 15 IAS jewels. If anything, this build should be one hell of a tank with huge defense and big FHR.

Jerkazoid · Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:44 am Post subject:

i think swords are range 1? (cept crystal?)
war scepter = range 2?

since your doing that make it from a long sword (-10wsm)

with a long sword 1 into fanata +4spirits:
fanata 5 needs 55ias to hit 6 frames

twitch + bloodfists + 2 ias jewels

Moos3d · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 73 0.00 Silvarrr

What instances would a reduced range have an effect? Luckily I already have one in both crystal and long.

Also I'm talking about only using spirit sword, not shield.

Hades · Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Posts: 958 0.00 Silvarrr

range is quite important vs other smiters and ww barbs... these are the main two that increased range has a big effect on.. if you go with a spirit sword i recomend fanat, as you wont be getting a decent speed with conc. the only times my smiter uses the dual spirit option is when i duel a fire trapper or other stunning characters.

Moos3d · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 73 0.00 Silvarrr

Pretty nice. Only about 20 or so less max damage with fanata and a visible increase in speed when I use long sword. I guess I could use crystal if I need to duel another smiter or WW barb. Another thing, it seems that even if I used a spirit shield on secondary to prebuff it doesn't affect the damage at all.