LLD101

[Tridge]

Prop. 2, a bill that would change the Michigan State Constitution to provide that "the union of one man and one woman in marriage shall be the only agreement recognized as a marriage or similar union for any purpose." was passed by a slim margin yesterday. The Bill is now Law.

Thats one small step for the ultra-consevative Christian right wing, and one GIANT leap backwards for gay rights and the human race as a whole.

Coupled with Bush being re-elected, I AM SO FCUKING PISSED OFF RIGHT NOW.
Don't use your Book to write MY LAWS!

[Pansy]

As I stated in one of the other threads here, the country is very politically polarized right now, and getting people back together under a Republican regime is going to take a very long time, if it's even possible (to be fair, Kerry possibly would have had a similar problem with the states that are Pro-Bush had he won Ohio). You aren't the only one who is upset that Bush got re-elected despite all the contradictions, bad military moves, and blatant favorances towards the rich that his administration has shown during his four years up to this point....yet half of the country still voted for him, so what can I say.

(/rant)

[B[x]]

we just had an hour 15 long debate in comp about the election. well, it wasn't really a debate, it was more of a "we're all pissed that bush got re-elected" talk. i can't remember the name of it but Clinton started this fund for college students to take loans out of so that they wouldn't have to take student loans out from banks who can charge whatever interest rates they wish. this fund would have a fixed low rate for the duration of the loan and it was a lot easier to get. since bush has been in office, he cut the funding to that loan by half. this means that many people cannot go to college because they cannot afford to pay the interest rates of banks. i'm going to be paying out of my ass for the student loans i'm taking out now and part of it is due to bush.
in all honesty, i'm seeing why a lot of people outside the US hate america. for one, our name is self centered, it's as if the rest of north america, central, as well as south america don't exist. if our name is the United States of America, shouldn't it include all the other countries in the Americas? outside of the US, a state is a country (germany is a state, italy is a state, etc.). so in other words, we're 50 states that is held together by one parent foundation, and held together loosely. the central government is getting losing it's grip on the power it has over the states. look at the way we vote - all of new york uses the lever machine where all of nevada (or some other state out west, i forget at the moment) uses all touch screen voting machines. there are several other ways of voting - electronically, paper and pin, etc. if it's a federal position you're voting on, shouldn't the way we vote be standardized? i mean, it's a federal matter, the way you vote shouldn't depend on what state or county or district you live in.
not only that, but the way school is taught is ridiculous. i'm talking about grammar school (K through 8), not college or even high school. up in the northeast, (we'll use multiplying as an example) multiplying is a second grade lesson where as in some parts of the south, you learn how to multiply in maybe the fourth or fifth grade. why is it that in some parts of the country, you can stock up on APs in high school and breeze through college in two years (if you want to) and in other parts, people who "graduate" high school have trouble with reading? the absurd majority of the schools that these undereducated people go to are underfunded and have different lesson plans to accommodate those that cannot complete the coursework. recently, congress passed the "no student left behind" act which has its good points, the idea behind it is pretty sound. the problem is that about 90% of the funding for that act is supposed to come from the states. unfortunately, the states simply cannot afford to pay for it. if it's a federal instated act, the federal government should back it and not dump the responsibility to pay for it on those who can't.
another thing is the national deficit. Clinton had balanced his budget and even produced a surplus to help pay back some of the existing deficit by the end of his second term. in the four years that bush has been in office, he's spent over $600 billion. 600 fucking billion!! he lends out money to struggling countries who have no hope of paying it back and when they can't, the people down at capitol hill look the other way. the US is like a bank who lends money without looking at current income, credit reports, or future outlooks. shit, you can't even get a car loan with the numbers that most countries have and yet we willingly give our money to them. yeah we're the richest countrie in the world and we should help out those who are less fortunate but there comes a point in time that you have to cut your losses and move on. if we keep this up, we're the ones that are going to be needing aid.
i'm not saying that i supported Kerry but i must say that he was the lesser of the evils.
fuck this, i'm moving in with Marie in Quebec.

note: i didn't register in time so i didn't vote though it doesn't matter because my county voted for Kerry.

/longest post i've ever made.

[Knarl]

It's funny how a lot of the hatred directed at Bush comes from the 18-25 year old range, yet the truth of the matter is, only 1 out of 9 or 10 (I forget the exact ratio) of the 18-25 year old range voted this election.

Yet they all like to bitch about Bush even though they didn't do a damn thing to try and be active in their democracy and vote.

[xX_marie_Xx]

[Koshi]

[Jerkazoid]

[ChasingChickens]

[Jerkazoid]

marriage existed before jesus.. but i get what your saying

ultimatly imo..its more of a tax thing.... but the religious aspect is just better for demagoguery

[ChasingChickens]

Yes it did, but what book do they use in marriages? Where are marriages typically held? Who typically performs the marriage?

[Jerkazoid]

the court can marry you.. its law.

law and religon, dangerous politics imo

[zoe_lldgod]

The Bible doesn't start with Jesus. Also, I heard the same info Knarl gave from CNN today during class. By the way, we don't use the Book for our laws. And if you don't wish to live in America, why don't you leave? No one's stopping you. There's no government agency making people stay. Just go. Simple as that.

[Jerkazoid]

[B[x]]

[2fat]

i think the whole mariage deal is upo the actual definition of mariage- union betweeen man and woman
i ngot nuthin against lettin the fruities be together n all
but the actual "mariage" aspect...i dunno about