LLD101

[wfg-dude]

Last night I dueled Jem and Drew with around 5 different chars and got my ass handed to me for the most part! I did win a few but mostly just died a lot.

Now, my gear is easily 2-3 x better than theirs! Spending months and tons of fg/currency trading/farming for horrible perfect gear. Many of my duelers are nearly perfect with gear. And yet, when it is all said and done... it all boils down to skill. Skilled duelers can use average gear and do very well... or noobs like me can use perfect gear and get owned.

So, wondering what your thoughts are on skill vs. gear. Why work so hard perfecting gear when perfecting skills should be more important.

I hate to admit that I suck so badly especially since I spend so much time perfecting them!

I guess I had more fun building than I did using them

Off to practice

[Roy]

Depends on the duel - melee for the most part is all about gear, whereas in ranged/open, skill usually takes precedent.

I've found I have better success practicing on my chars and learning the nuances of the build instead of trying to upgrade every last detail.

[krajee]

[Waramp]

ping > skill > gear

[Hong10]

I noticed the % of need of skill increases together with lvl, like on my vlld is pretty much clicking, timing and calculating the tiger strike charges damage. On my lamedin its involved alot more movement around blood moor and also choosing up which skill to use, dodging attacks etc...

From my old DOTA records, knowing which setup to use against xxx char is called MACRO, and movementing/clicking the char itself its MICRO. and er.. why am i talking about dota?

Well i'm pretty much new to LLD and have alot of stuff to learn, maybe that's why i chose vlld to start with.

[eAr_gOd]

people say melee is all about gear.. but I think thats only half of the story. The other half is the build- I know I analyze every possible setup with a bunch of different calculations before I commit. I've been able to beat a lot of "more expensive" melees because of a superior build setup.
On the other hand, you have noobs that hoarde every single expensive jewel/charm, only to waste them by not knowing what to do with them. I've seen a "1000fg vlld" who used 3 str large charms mixed with his expensive gear. I won't say any names, but there are a few lurking on this site .

[latto]

[Mimes]

i think that skill and gear are both almost =. if someones gear is a LOT better then your you chances drop dramatically. BUT if your a better dueler then them, you still have a chance to win.

in duels such as zealer vs zealer duels(say lvl 1 skill has very little to do with the duel, as gear decides dmg and CTH and such.

while in a duel such as sorc vs sorc (blizz or fb...very few GOOD light sorcys out there) it comes down to skill. if your a better dueler then they are, but they have better gear, you will win more often, as long as you have at least decent gear.

[wfg-dude]

[Grim04]

What chars did Imp and Drew use?\

Alot of chars are just better than other chars.

I'm surprised you lost, since I've beaten most of their chars with my cleric (all except ele druid [cyclone > foh]).

[Wank]

It wasn't Drew, it was me. Sheesh .

Anyways, we dueled using Fog, Snap, Yank, and a few 18 duels. We were going to ss vs ss but never go around to it.

[Roy]

[Chewie]

I'm pretty sure I have the worst nec stats-wise, but I'm confident I can beat almost anyone NvN.

[wfg-dude]

[Waramp]

i wish i kept my sorc alive to duel ehhh, just to see how badly i get raped