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blizz99
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 247 BNet Acct/Realm: US East, Classic
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:49 am Post subject:
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Charger vs. bone nec ( how to face the horr of bone prision)
Charger vs. charger ( how do u hit the enemy first before they charge u?)
charger vs. freeze zealot( freeze, slow target and shield; CANT hit them!!)
charger vs. jab zons ( their lighting is just scary)
these r the ones i feared most, i ned some advices and some stradegies aganist these people. If charger just suck at dueling those people... then i shall not ask...
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Vixen
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:55 am Post subject:
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Unless you jump the necro, or he's slow you're not gonna' hit him through his BM bone prisons/walls. Generally if he's bad enough to use prison he'll throw a couple of walls around him and in front of him so you really don't have a chance.
Charger VS Charger I would assume is just the luck of how's quicker and more accurate with the mouse.
I doubt you'll have a ton of trouble with the Zons, charge in and if they aren't dead, charge out and charge in again.
Not so sure abotu a Freeze zealot, my guess is you're screwed to some extent
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Captain Crunch
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:01 pm Post subject:
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bone nec : u can kill him if your fast enough to catch him off guard and if he has low fhr. but if he can cast the bone wall/prison before u can hit him, then your done.
charger : well...the other charger will have the same problem with u as far as who hits first. it depends who has better aim. or who gets lucky and blocks.
frosty : yar har har...actually not that hard to kill. auras all pulse on a regular pattern, so if u hit him in between pulses, it wont activate and freeze u. charge moves fast enough for u to hit and get away.
cs zons : lld cs zons are pretty weak. u shoudl be fast enough to get in and get out before getting hit.
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blizz99
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:11 pm Post subject:
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thanks for the advices!! they helped a lot, but i have to add another char that bothers me...........
bow zon: ( keeps kocking me out that i cant even touch her!!)
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Captain Crunch
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:13 pm Post subject:
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are u assuming that the bowzon is an idiot and likes to just fire arrows randomly before she even sees u? because if thats the case, then u can just wait somewhere else and watch her waste arrows. but if your both on screen and no one is attacking, and u both start at the same time, then u can just keep charging and she shouldnt be able to hit u.
and is your charger using a 2 handed wep...?
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just shdw
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:04 pm Post subject:
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against bone necs, go with eth bonesnap or eth insight partizan. have tele staff on switch to get out of prisons and dodge spears and so on, basically get a couple of hits in tele out repeat.
against chargers. switch to a shield and weapon get max block honor is good hear try get a divine with some skills if possible.
charge strike/jab zons your at a disatvantage because they just walk with max block and evade skills its hard to touch them while your being speared to death.
freeze pally if he slows down your charge that kinda sucks and it depends on his weapon range. charge in n out or get him into a lock. u want a shield for this one also.
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blizz99
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:08 pm Post subject:
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Thanks my friends!!!
Yes, im using a 2 handed weapon
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Captain Crunch
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:09 pm Post subject:
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2 handed is a bad idea against melees...
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Ehhh
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:34 pm Post subject:
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Another thing you could do against all of them is to desync them and then do hit and runs. If you use insight, mana should not be too big a problem.
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:37 am Post subject:
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to make sure you hit first on charger vs charger, always be below them.
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VoicesLLD
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:15 am Post subject:
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we have a strategies forum for a reason.
moved.
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Inexorable
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:44 am Post subject:
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Against Bone Necs, get the biggest 2h weapon you can, and mash them.
Vs. Chargers, get a shield. Max block will save you.
Vs. Freeze Zealots: Don't bother. Regular Zealots > Chargers most of the tiem as it is. A BM frost zealot... don't even bother.
Vs. CS Zons: Get 75% light resist from gear and charms, and the biggest 2h weapon possible. Pray they don't dodge or block too much.
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Tridge
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:41 pm Post subject:
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i'd try to get a nice -req bh with nat ele or a skt saph/ruby. i have a 162 -30 bh, but the lvl req is like 48 or something. i'm gonna make me a zeelit with an ias 94 dmg dblade here pertty soon.
bh will gib you a good amount of dmg, then you can use twitch and sback for ow/block. highly recommend toes too.
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wfg-dude
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:19 pm Post subject:
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A lvl 27 charger I know on west ladder uses 1 hand honor weap and shield and he is a godly charger. He keeps insight on the switch for mana regen or for when he wants to kill someone in one hit (his insight has +6 crit strike). He doesn't lose to anyone his own lvl ... and pwns the pubby rooms.
Most bone necs at that lvl (while annoying) dont have a bone prison strong enough to keep you there longer than 1 swing of your weapon. shift click to swing your weap...and poof the wall disappears. The godliest of necs just bone spirit your ass until u die...they don't need or use bone prison. Their cast rate (if made right) is so fast...ull never have time to worry about bonewall. If I remember right Dao_Jones has a pnb nec that is GODLY...perhaps u can practice on him.
As for bowazon...their defense is so weak...even if they GA your ass charging in...you will kill them in one hit. Then pick up their ear...laugh at them...and go heal! NP.
U worry too much. If made right...charger is very formidable against almost every class! At least LLD. Obviously, there are ways to kill chargers...but there are ways to kill all chars so...don't worry so much. You do know that the charge skill can be used to move around and not just for attack right? With practice on that...you will win many a duel.
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