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[wfg-dude]

[sPiN]

They's isn't!

[GohanSSJ]

[breakbeatz2]

Nothing is wrong with trading for dupes or using them. They are already in existence, so you might as well use them if they benefit your character.

However, duping items yourself is bad for the game, especially if you are introducing a new dupe into the system. It's is especially dangerous to LLD as LLD is fairly legit and duped jewels are perm.

So - dupers are bad, but using duped items is fine.

[DarkMousy]

Great, we're down to namecalling. How immature. First off, what does using duplicated items have to do with my level of intelligence? Absolutely nothing. Furthermore, I play the game to have fun, no? People do not get penalized for using duped items, it's more/less accepted by bnet now. That brings me onto my next point - you say it's frowned upon to cheat. That is true. However, for it to be "cheating" there has to be a set of REGULATED RULES by which the game/event HAS to follow, and the people who wish not to follow it suffer a consequence handed out by an authority. The authority, being bnet/blizz, clearly doesn't give a shit, so why should I? If it's within the realms of the game and it's not "against the rules" then what's the fuss about?

And, before you consider bringing it up, I'd like to add that third party progs ARE regulated still by blizz, so there is still some level of involvement in this game. Remember the mass banning for botting/the previous RA mod/MH? Obviously blizz cares enough about that to do something about it, hell even GMerc was patched. Dupes? Not a chance. By definition, using duped items isn't cheating. Duping them, that's cheating, but using them? No thanks. I play to make my character as strong as possible. I'm not breaking ANY bnet rules by using duped items, therefore I'm free to use them, regardless of what you or anyone else who's not an authority might say.

At the end of the day, providing the necessary bps are hit and it's actually a duel of characters that take SKILL to play (ie. casters), skill > items.

[wfg-dude]

If we could dupe beers would you drink one?


Hell yes I would...anyone else?

[MortisNostre]

[breakbeatz2]

Duh, but you can't blame the individual consumer.

A person who buys and uses dupes in not responsible for the current state of D2.

Similarly, a person who buys and wears clothes from The Gap is not responsible for the harsh conditions of sweat shop labor.

I sure hope you don't buy clothes from The Gap - using your logic that would make you a horrible person.

[GohanSSJ]

Actually that's a load of crap... the way people been dealing with fur coats has truely diminished the amount of fur coats being sold, well real ones anyway.

If everyone on D2 refused to use dupes, then dupes wouldn't be around, if nobody would buy items with real money, then those sale sites wouldn't be around.

[Wank]

Wait, why do I (or anyone else for that matter) care if you are having fun? Rofl. By the way, if you want to keep calling people a n00b take it to the firepit, no one cares that you can call people names, a 2 year old can.

[Zeiris-lld]

Why are there four pages discussing some fantasy world in which dupes are morally wrong and you shouldn't use them? Go into an HLD game and find me ONE dueler (dueler, not noobcake in uniques) who doesn't use dupes.

THAT's reality. THIS is a silly fantasy-land discussion.

[GohanSSJ]

[MortisNostre]

[krajee]

[DarkMousy]

First off, do you have to be such an immature prick? I'm sorry, but my intelligence has nothing to do this this conversation. Rather, it would seem to have everything to do with YOUR deficiencies and evident inability to say anything intelligent in response to several points I've made, so would you either address them properly without being a prick , or kindly STFU. Or better yet, I'll just drop my intelligence level and have a conversation with you on yours ok (minus the insults because that's just irrelevant BS that nobody needs to hear).

Now, that aside, slitting my throat, that's an illegal act, plain and simple. You do it you go to jail, horrible analogy, try harder next time please 'kay?

Your fun has nothing to do with mine. What if I said your non-dupe fantasy land takes away from my fun? Please. I really couldn't care less about your fun, there's always the option to click the uninstall buddy, or leave the game. Crying does you no good if nobody cares/wants to listen to you.

It's fair if alot of other people use them to, no? Majority of bnet uses them, so why should I be unfair to myself and not use them?

As for blizz not doing enough, there was a huge mass banning, obviously you can't get them all, but compare that effort to what have they done to stop duping? You got it, it's almost laughable.

I'm still technically not cheating, can't call me there for anything. Are you against grushing characters too? Do you mf/have multiple accounts? Do you xfer items? Because as far as I know, it was never blizz's intentions for that to happen, exploit the system more?

I'm not even going to address the last point you made, just more irrelevant trash that spews forth from your keyboard. I'm just gonna say it's sad how personally you take someone's using of a duped item, please. It's a VIDEO GAME, get over yourself.

If it pisses you off that much that you're gonna pour your life and soul into a losing argument on a forum that 99% of the d2 community has never heard of, well, you're better off quitting and doing something better with your life. Nobody's forcing you to use them, don't if you don't want to. However, crying about dupes isn't gonna change anything, because in all honesty, who the hell are you to the d2 population? Just some other person that nobody could care less about, they'll never meet you IRL, so they won't care, and even if they did it's debatable. Dupes are here to stay, dupe users >>>>> dreamers who wouldn't use them, deal with it.