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Vietthehand · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:52 pm Post subject:

actually i think a smiter might be able to beat him. use crubsing blow/ow to get his life to 1. since they have alot of spare skill points you could probably max holy fire. that skill never misses and it would go through the bone armor. im not sure if it does enough damage to kill him( might be negated through mdr and resists) just a thought.

B[x] · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:13 pm Post subject:

the only problem is that like rampage pointed out, smiters do low damage at level 9, not enough to break through the bone armor. once a substantial amount of bone armor has been damage, the necro can just recast it.

mei, once i get my mini sac pally going, we'll test that out.

Vietthehand · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:23 pm Post subject:

i was under the belief that ow and cb are not affected by bone armor. this is enough to get the necro to 1 life. im not 100% sure though. the whole point of holy fire was to not have to worry about the bone armor (its elemental damage). you would only need it to do the last 1 damage.

B[x] · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:24 pm Post subject:

wait, ow and cb ignore bone armor? hmm.. i never knew that, nor am i sure.
can anyone verify this?

::starts to re-equip smiter::

Rampage · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject:

I believe Bone Armor only negates physical damage. Not sure it that would include CB or OW. We did some test and both the Druids fire and the Sorcys fire-cold-lightning penetrate the armor. Now to get them up to a decent level of damage. Oh and poison does work but is easily negated by Deaths just as fire is negated by Hotspurs. I killed him in a matter of seconds when he dueled me without Death and I did not have all my poison charms on. Once he put on Death it was a different story.

Jerkazoid · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:33 pm Post subject:

crushing blow and openwounds.

however neither of these skills can kill, so u will need to be able to do 1 dmg to kill ...

the hard part is making sure u can survive long enough. the smiter is best suited to take on the build imo. however u will need a way to deliver an alternative attack

holy fire would work,, except 1 nagel = 3mdr and there goes up to 23 listed elemental dmg. so u need to pack a bit more then just crappy ele dmg.. a few 1-9 lighting sc's might be in order.. but what a sacrifice

i suppose a rubied weapon would be needed on switch ?
edit er i suppose topazs since theres no way he can res lighting beyond 75% and it has a better avg and max dmg.

mind u 75% res would mean u need a 49 ele to hit to get through 1 nagel.. and a 59 ele hit to get through 2 nagels.

u can try putting a gnasher on your builds,, or use a clegs sword to make sure u can get a hit above 600 listed dmg often enough...

for ts sin u can try using only a single charge (or 2) then realese
use a clegs sword for 50% deadly strike.. that should help throw your max dmg over the 600 mark to get through bone armor and do some killing (B[x] if your min dmg hits over 300 on 1 charge ull be good with clegs sword,, he cant run every time u get just 1 charge, can he? lol)

2fat · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:14 pm Post subject:

yes yes yes boys
i dueled mei with my smiter and had him at 1 health when i still had half left from there
still lost but not thtll change > Smile

i got sumthin thtll get tht last bit done
we'll see how it works

B[x] · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:20 pm Post subject:

Jerkazoid · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:24 pm Post subject:

ah.. 150 bone armor.. i assumed slvl 9 only.. but he has the +skills ofcourse

888 listed dmg is needed to crack through that puppy.... so unless u can get over 444 + a deadly hit.. he can just recast Sad

well.. perhaps theres a way to draw out the fight so that he runs out of mana or sac charges,, lol

well the smiter stills seems a best bet,, it will interupt , always hits.., and best of all, zilch DTM.

Mr.Snuggles · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 9:03 pm Post subject:

the 2 charges idea doesnt rly work.....cause i was doing this when me and mei were testing....and he realized then once i got 2x charges to run....and my 1 charge isnt enough to even affect his bone armor rly (i only do 1.1k fully charged..>_<)

matic_random · Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:25 am Post subject:

might be really stupid question but how about lvl9 kicker?my ironladie can take him down,lolz Smile

i think kickers are pretty fast and can deal more dmg then smite and has lil knockback stunt thingy,so it might get bone armor off quickly by my thinkin.and if u use some nice weps like gnasher and somethin else along with it,i think kickecker can put up decent fight,not sure tho.
let me kno wut u think,since rampage said find any skill on your char so i just tought of nice kicker Smile

Belarathon · Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:49 pm Post subject:

i think a smiter with 6x flawed topaz weapon on switch will kill it. and possibly use cleg glove aswell, to fight against the slow you're getting from golem, fight back with slow

oldschool · Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 1 0.00 Silvarrr

i dueled meitou with my ts/kicksin, and got pwned. i didnt know who he was at the time, lol... his build is crazy. his scepter its insane too, it has like 60+ charges of level 7 sacrifice or something at level 9... how is this possible? i shopped a scepter that had 10+ charges of level 1 sac and it was level 7 req >.>

gbr_oNi · Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:54 am Post subject:

[quote="oldschool"]i dueled meitou with my ts/kicksin, and got pwned. i didnt know who he was at the time, lol... his build is crazy. his scepter its insane too, it has like 60+ charges of level 7 sacrifice or something at level 9... how is this possible? i shopped a scepter that had 10+ charges of level 1 sac and it was level 7 req >.>[/quote]
67 charges of lvl 10 sacrifice actually. And seeing as it's meito, it's probably socketed with 2 x 14 maxers o_O

meitou · Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 1661 4.11 Silvarrr

Hah, you digged up this 1.5 year old post.

The necro is using a lvl11 sacrifice scepter now, which I shopped by a lvl97 char. It's not tooooooo hard to shop one as I remember. But you need a high lvl char to do the shopping.

As for what can beat this type of necro, I have better ideas now.

lvl 9 summon necro have best chance, because skeletons have huge life, and a sac necro will kill himself, if not killed by skeletons/mercs/the summon necro who is doing same damage by sac charge weapon.

Then a really really good lvl9 jabber, because of fast hit/blocking/dodge, the necro might run out of sac charge before the jabber is dead, unless necro use/carry 2 scepters or more.

Other lvl9s have no chance as far as I can tell.