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Google · Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 5:43 pm Post subject: Light Sorc or Fire Sorc?

I can't decide wheather to make a fire sorc or light sorc. Fire sorcs are good, but there r SoOO many out there, while there aren't near as many light sorcs out there. Fire sorcs can also just tele and spam fb like crazii, but for a light sorc u need to get at least semi-close to the guy to hit him.

I wanna make a char that would do good vs other llds, and also be able to kill some pubby mld-hlds.

Some suggestions would be greatly appreciated Twisted Evil

Visual Tactics · Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 5:46 pm Post subject:

I like fire sorcs the most personally.
btw, did you get my pm?

RodeKil · Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject:

Light all the way. Be different while still pwning.

sPiN · Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 7:07 pm Post subject:

screw fire, go light, too many fire sorcs, be different.

just shdw · Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject:

go the underdog light build, they can still be quite powerful Very Happy

winning with a light sorc requires more skill than with a fire sorc simply becuase they do less damage. but people will respect you more if u can beat a fire sorc with a light sorc

sPiN · Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject:

i respect someone who doesn't use the same thing everyone else uses, spirit = stupid, after ladder ended, i used a plain 2/20 cold orb until i got my 2/20/3blizz, when i could have easily just used a spirit. someone who uses a different build, is a respectable person in my eyes, being good with it, is a bonus Smile

Belarathon · Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 9:07 pm Post subject:

a fire sorc with spirit does about 2x the average dmg of a light sorc with a 2/20/3 wand

meitou · Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 1661 4.11 Silvarrr

Lighting/TS sorc need +max resis vs fire sorc, if both eaully geared and skillful.

But lightning can't be effectively max resisted at lvl30. That's the only advantage of being a lightning sorc.

destructojoe · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:29 am Post subject:

if your dueling other LLD's you should try dueling by the rules = no tele. This changes the dynamics of the duel significantly and while I think the advantage is still the fire sorc, its only a slight margin compared to when both sorcs can tele.

Mindless · Joined: 14 May 2005 Posts: 34 0.00 Silvarrr

Here's some statistics for you...

lets say the opponent is wearing hot spurs.

average firball damage ~ 2800 (considering its an e-shield setup)
after 90% resists and 1/4 pvp penalty ~ 70 damage
average lighting damage ~ 1900 (considering its an e-shield setup)
after 75% resists and 1/4 pvp penalty ~ 118 damage

advantage of light:
more damage against bm players
easier for someone to run into a shot (longer attacks)
allows stronger TS / ES. (allows +4 extra into e-shield with only using switch)
style
slower shots are better for mana consumption
if you get e-shield with base points, you can also you meditation on switch Smile

advantage of fire:
more damage against general public
faster shots
3 less mana used per shot
stronger warmth

If mana isn't a problem and it shouldn't be with frosties, spirit, sojs and good charms / gear... i would go with light... but i am considering the style and respect bonus with this...

fu8ar · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:53 am Post subject:

I agree with everyone that has already posted in here, there are way too many fire sorcs even though I never see them. My next sorc will be light I already know where my circ is just need a ammy and to find a good orb. Till then sorry Survival but spirit sword will be my weapon till i find the orb just like with my fire sorc she uses spirit the orb I currently have for her doesnt have enough mana and alot less life, the only advantage my orb has is +2 tele so i save on skill pnts.

Belarathon · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 10:10 am Post subject:

2800 dmg is really low to assume.. seeing how you get over 3k with an eshield/spirit setup ... and only pubs will use hotspur vs you mostly.. in a gm lld duel mostly nobody wears hotspur, and even if a pub wears hotspur you can still beat him cause hes a pub .. fireball is a much stronger build, lightning is different.. but it has less range, a lot less dmg, and you need more fcr for it.. i think lightning is only better vs a charging hammerdin and thats it, since its a straight line they will charge through the lightnings ... but fb is decent enough vs those anyways.
if you wanna be 50% killing power and 50% im cool cause im different go lightning
100% killing power and 0% im cool cause im different use fb

meitou · Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 1661 4.11 Silvarrr

Actually, I have never seen a real "pub" using hotspur. Only experienced dueler would carry such thing in stash. And under some situation, it's fair for one to put on hotspur.

If you have never made a 30 sorc before, starting with FB isn't a bad idea.

kouky · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject:

[quote="Mindless"]

advantage of light:
more damage against bm players
easier for someone to run into a shot (longer attacks)
allows stronger TS / ES. (allows +4 extra into e-shield with only using switch)
style
slower shots are better for mana consumption
if you get e-shield with base points, you can also you meditation on switch Smile

advantage of fire:
more damage against general public
faster shots
3 less mana used per shot
stronger warmth

If mana isn't a problem and it shouldn't be with frosties, spirit, sojs and good charms / gear... i would go with light... but i am considering the style and respect bonus with this...[/quote]

Questions/Comments...

1.) more dmg against bm players and general public? i dont understand that...

2.) easier to run into shot? unsure if u get lit dmg from running into it from the side...

3.) slower shots? lit fcr bps are different, but i always thought lit was one of the faster skills with enough fcr.

4.) you can always use meditation, even without ES it'll still help, and u can get ES from prebuff so its the same for fire sorc.

5.) lit slower, better for mana consumption? lit costs more than fball anyways =/

if someone could clear htese up for me thatd b great. thx,

kouky - -

Sad · Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 756 0.00 Silvarrr