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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:00 pm    Post subject:  

how so...? if he never said he had any ethics, it doesnt matter who hes making fun of for not having ethics...

u cant be a hypocrite if u never even said u were something

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:03 pm    Post subject:  

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how so...? if he never said he had any ethics, it doesnt matter who hes making fun of for not having ethics...

u cant be a hypocrite if u never even said u were something


Er, you do know what a hypocrite is correct?

He is making fun of pwned for having no ethics. You say "maybe he has no ethics." If this is true, he is being a hypocrite...whether or not he says he has them.

If he has ethics, I was saying they were questionable, because he's flamebaiting.
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:08 pm    Post subject:  

Ehhh wrote:
He is making fun of pwned for having no ethics. You say "maybe he has no ethics." If this is true, he is being a hypocrite...whether or not he says he has them.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hypocrite
your a hypocrite if u claim to be something u are not. but sky never claimed to have any ethics. so that means hes not a hypocrite...yet...

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If he has ethics, I was saying they were questionable, because he's flamebaiting.

pwned does his own share of flamebating too...and u know how life is now, an eye for an eye. WHAT IS OUR WORLD COMING TO!?!???!?!?!?

personally, i think pwned needs to suck it up. its just a game, and its just a jewel, and there will be dishonest/underhanded people wherever the hell u go, united states, canda, madagascar, the moon....w/e

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:23 pm    Post subject:  

on topic, i think it's more annoying than unethical...
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:26 pm    Post subject:  

Well I guess we have different definitions of hypocrite. I say if someone is looking down on someone else and they are the same (in this case both have no ethics) then they are being hypocritical.
In a way the definitions are very similar. Since usually when you make fun of someone for their beliefs, you do not share them. That is a less concrete definition I guess.

Either way, I was questioning his ethics. We all have them, they just differ from person to person.

And that is why it is kind of hypocritical (by my definition). No one likes pwned because of his flamebaiting and whatever, but in this case, the criticizer is the one flamebaiting.

Personally I think you guys are just being biased against the kid (pwned), and letting another member off easy for the same offense.
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:29 pm    Post subject:  

val isnt getting off easy anywhere. at one time, val was a banned member. but when carebear and that idiot ass OLL used the phpbb exploit, the ban list was deleted, and val was never rebanned because he behaved himself.

pwned was also banned at one point, under the sn mva1. but sean decided to give him a second chance, because seans just a great guy like that

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject:  

forsaken wrote:
personally, i think pwned needs to suck it up. its just a game,

Yea like I had to when you traded that psn sc without giving me a chance ^^" (thats one of the few times its happened to me, circumstances are a little different but the same idea nonetheless).
Guess it caught up to you that time though Razz
No hard feelings or anything. Cool

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 5:14 am    Post subject:  

Ehhh wrote:
forsaken wrote:
did he ever say he had any ethics? u shouldnt assume so easily...


Well, then he's a hypocrite.


Hey, I'm only a hypocrite if I am the one prescribing that someone should act with an ethical code (ie: not flamebaiting as you call it). However, the only point I had in coming in here was to point out that my experiences with pwned have led me to believe he falls very short of most peoples' definition of an ethical person, so it seemed like a pretty hypocritical standpoint for him to be taking and accusing someone else of not having. I, myself, actually don't believe in any universal laws like ethics; I think that every single person in the world has their own definition, but that is a discussion for another thread, forum, and time.

I merely added the PM post to show my point; that's all. I am not out to destroy pwned's reputation; he has done a fine job of that all on his own. However, when someone is throwing stones in a glass house, I'm sure as hell going to speak up about it.

So, if you want to accuse me of being a hypocrite, I'd like to see where I was saying

1) Everyone should behave ethically.
2) I am an ethical person
3) This post is ethical

Until then...

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 5:57 am    Post subject:  

hey sky, you know what would be nice?
stop flaming me every chance u get!

kay, bye

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 5:59 am    Post subject:  

pwned.nl wrote:
hey sky, you know what would be nice?
stop flaming me every chance u get!

kay, bye


You, like Ehhh, also need to point out what you're talking about. I didn't flame you once in that post.

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In fact, just thinking about those tender little White Castle burgers with those little, itty-bitty grilled onions that just explode in your mouth like flavor crystals every time you bite into one... just makes me want to burn this mother----er down. Come on, Pookie, let's burn this mother----er down!
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 7:41 am    Post subject:  

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pwned.nl wrote:
hey sky, you know what would be nice?
stop flaming me every chance u get!

kay, bye


You, like Ehhh, also need to point out what you're talking about. I didn't flame you once in that post.


Well you were pointing out that pwned probably has poor ethics. And if you yourself don't have good ethics, you aren't really in a position to speak. That is all I was saying.
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject:  

Ehhh wrote:
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pwned.nl wrote:
hey sky, you know what would be nice?
stop flaming me every chance u get!

kay, bye


You, like Ehhh, also need to point out what you're talking about. I didn't flame you once in that post.


Well you were pointing out that pwned probably has poor ethics. And if you yourself don't have good ethics, you aren't really in a position to speak. That is all I was saying.


good point

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:57 am    Post subject:  

Well, I'm failing to see how giving an example of someone else's "poor ethics" is displaying poor ethics on myself. I was just giving an example to prove my point; if you guys want to take that as me flaming pwned, go for it, but that wasn't my intent.

Even if I do have poor ethics (which I may according to some), that still doesn't change the fact of what I said about pwned. It's a simple fact that everyone attached a lot more meaning to. Deal.

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 5:37 pm    Post subject:  

I was saying your location is provocative. Nothing to do with your actual post being a flame.

"I hate pwned.nl"

Sounds a bit unfriendly to me. It's going to get a reaction, and you know what kind of reaction pwned will give you. That is why I said it was flamebait.

And that is why I said what I said. Deal.
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject:  

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