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CrimsonSkunk
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 13 BNet Acct/Realm: East/Ladder *lowlvlpig
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:12 am Post subject:
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I really want to make one but I have no clue what level and what build I should make it at. Will it fail miserably or is it actualy a viable idea?
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Pansy
Joined: 08 Feb 2004 Posts: 211 BNet Acct/Realm: U.S. East NL
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:57 am Post subject:
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It might be doable at level 30 with the addition of venom. You'll probably need to have a good prebuff Shadow Disciplines setup on your weapon switch by shopping some +2 SD claws (should be able to shop those in act 1 or act 2 nm) and, if you don't mind having to do a bit of running in and out of town to prebuff, getting other +skill items (psychic helm, which is a magical mod that can be shopped from merchants and I believe is usable at level 30, +2 SD ammy, SOJs, vipermagi).
With the full prebuff that I listed, you'll do 245-265 venom damage, and venom will last 164 seconds (just under 3 minutes, so you'll probably have to run back to town after every 1-2 duels). Anyone with death's hand and/or good poison resists will probably negate a large portion of the venom damage, however. The nice thing about having all this prebuff stuff, though, is you'll get a nice level BoS without investing a lot into it, which will save you some trouble of having to get a large amount of IAS from other sources. You also get a decent BoS duration of 252 seconds (a little over 4 minutes).
As for a bow, you'll do the most damage with a nice rare gothic bow, although the dex requirement may be a bit steep unless you put in a hel rune. Gothic bow is pretty much the only way you can do a substantial amount of physical damage with a bowsin, which is important because you can't rely completely on venom to do all your damage. The unique edge bow Skystrike may work too, but the lightning damage is negligible and the physical damage on it leaves a lot to be desired.
If you prebuff your BoS fully (level 12 if you only put 1 point in BoS) you'll only need 30% ias to hit 9 frame with a gothic bow, which you can get quite easily from the death glove + belt combo. If you don't fully prebuff BoS (say only get two +2 SD claws on switch, putting it at about level 5) then you'll need 48% ias, which is achievable from death glove + belt combo + twitch.
You'll probably need a good amount of AR, so you'll definetly need the angelic ring + ammy combo (two angelic rings may be necessary). You'll also need a max damage helm and armor, unless you need twitch for the IAS, but you can open this spot for a max damage armor if you get BoS to level 12. Sander's boots will also give you a good AR boost as well as 15 stats and 40 r/w. Your charms will also have to be focused around max/ar/some other second mod (life, r/w) and resist and/or life charms.
The build will probably do resonably ok, but don't expect it to be top tier by any means.
Hopefully this helps.
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meitou
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 1661
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:47 am Post subject:
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bob-marley
Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 128 BNet Acct/Realm: new jersey
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:04 am Post subject:
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heh if you decide to make this...goodluck. a lvl 18 zealot will rape this build. deaths own psn dmg
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Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 6130 BNet Acct/Realm: Retired
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:39 am Post subject:
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if you do decide to go ahead with this build, i strongly suggest sticking a Nef in your bow. i mean, bowazons aren't very viable without knockback so i don't see how a bowsin would be any different.
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ATOMICMAN
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Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2740 BNet Acct/Realm: *ATOMICMAN-LLD USEastNL Retired
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:16 pm Post subject:
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hybred zons do pretty well actually but you will need knockback though
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Vietthehand
Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 823 BNet Acct/Realm: USwest *vietthelld *vietthefoot
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:22 pm Post subject:
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id say make the build. very original. This build might be more effective than you might think. you never know until you try it. it doesnt matter how many times you lose, as long as your having fun.
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diet_sushi
Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1614 BNet Acct/Realm: Korea's got SEOUL
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:29 pm Post subject:
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hmm i got a question does TS work with missle weapons like bows on a assasin or does it have to be melee? when u charge up and attack i mean since i was thinking u could charge up on some enemies in the moor then attack them with the bow i dunno though never tried
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Jerkazoid
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 2902 BNet Acct/Realm: wscl
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject:
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l337h4x0rz wrote: | does TS work with missle weapons |
throwing and fireing doesnt count as the normal or finsiher attack.. so no they wont realese thier effect
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Hellfireclanx
Joined: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 1198
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:26 pm Post subject:
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no its not original and its not effective... i'm pretty sure chibi has one and he says his holy fire aura pally is better
like bob said death rapes psn, and its not high to begin with... your phys damage will suck too
also you'd be a ranged char with low damage whos missiles aren't guided and who doesn't have a quick way to run away
looking at other ranged chars...
fire sorcs have tele, they always hit
spirit necs have prison and their bs is guided, magic, always hits
bow zons are guided, arrows always hit
bow pallys have charge, arrows always hit if using exploding arrows and holy fire
if you wanna make a bow char go with pally or zon
if you want to make a ranged assassin, i'd suggest blade instead of bow
someone here had a blade sin that was pretty good because it used openwounds/crushing whatever
the skill naturally has knockback and venom is much more effective because the blades fire very fast
it was effective vs short ranged chars, but vs longer ranged necs and sorcs i don't think it did very well
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:13 am Post subject:
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I made it, and it failed.
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