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Ehhh
Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 689
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:03 am Post subject:
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Quote: | Charging around and spamming hammers seems pretty easy to me. |
Running/teleporting around and spamming *insert skill here* seems pretty easy to me.
There is a lot more to dueling than a lot of us would like to admit. It's more than just charging around or running around. You run to places that you deem are well suited for your purposes, such as behind a bush to get rid of some projectiles that are tracking you, or just plain dodge attacks.
In my opinion, none of this can be as complex as a *well played* hammerdin though, because hammerdins require much more than just moving a little and attacking, they require charging a lot and attacking when the time is right, or trapping which is far more complex than your typical dodge, shoot, dodge, shoot duel.
A lot of hammerdin strategy requires you to think about where you are on your opponents screen opposed to where you actually are, how much you are currently desynced, whether or not he knows where you are, where he thinks you are, etc.
If you really want to say hammerdins are easy to play, then you'd have to say the Diablo 2 is pretty easy to play because it's all more or less the same thing when you really boil it down. Clicking a mouse and using some hotkeys.
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Jaku
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:33 am Post subject:
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somebody teach me how to use a hammerdin o.o
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Meegz ?
Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 2671 BNet Acct/Realm: *meegz @ east ladder
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject:
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ive tried using a desynch hammerdin, and i just cant do it. i cant use a hld tele/hammer either, so i just stay away from hammerdins in general though. desynch/hammer and doing it right is about 15xharder than tele/hammer. and thats not even skill jumping, thats just strictly hammer and charge. i didnt try to incorporate meditation, vigor, wep switching, etc...
people saying desynch hammerdins are easy to use are like people saying that trapsins require no skill. when everyone in the game hates you and immediately puts on absorb, i'd like to know how i still win w/o any skill. sorry, just retarded posts like this aggravate me because someone is constantly being ass-raped by a certain character and wants other people to agree with him, so he can say 'yeah, well, me and...we dont like it because all you do is desynch, and thats how you win'
get the hell over it. you lost. make a good bone necro.
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Belarathon
Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 4577 BNet Acct/Realm: east nl
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject:
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hammerdin takes more skill to use effectivly than many characters, including blizz sorc which i think is what you use? blizz is so easy to aim with ... and spirit isnt even the best lld hammerdin weapon so forget that.
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simple_fighter
Joined: 09 May 2006 Posts: 67
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject:
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[quote="Survival"]joe is actualy not a very good hdin dueler, he likes to use medetation the whole duel to replenish his life back to 100%, so he's not the easiest thing to kill, without his medetation, i can eventualy kill him. i'll admit he does beat me, but by using a newb strategy, charge away replen mana/life, spam hammers and desynch, hard to do? nope.[/quote]
fair enough, when im in a spot like say i was facing a sorc i'd just say if i cant use meditation you can't use tele ^.^
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MeshinLLD
Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 1284
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:46 pm Post subject:
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Imp wrote: | Think you got confused with dupes. We DO have different dupe rares, but runewords are the same for all realms. |
Runewords are not all the same, the difference is in "Wind" (USWest) and "Splendor" (USEast). I know for a fact "Wind" is west only. I think "Splendor" is east only..
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Vietthehand
Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 823 BNet Acct/Realm: USwest *vietthelld *vietthefoot
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject:
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i play west and i have never heard of "wind" but we do have splendors over here ^^
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breakbeatz2
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject:
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Are you sure that it's not just that wind is so crappy and uses Sur that no one has ever made one?
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Vietthehand
Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 823 BNet Acct/Realm: USwest *vietthelld *vietthefoot
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject:
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yea i guess that could be it, i looked up the stats and it does kinda suk. where did u see that its west only?
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Shademehr
Joined: 23 Mar 2005 Posts: 1151 BNet Acct/Realm: GONE to D2JSP. I know, good riddance, right? LOL
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject:
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Vietthehand wrote: | yea i guess that could be it, i looked up the stats and it does kinda suk. where did u see that its west only? |
It's not.
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pryzmatix
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 161
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject:
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[quote="breakbeatz2"]Charging around and spamming hammers seems pretty easy to me.[/quote]
Is this "Desynching"?
I never figured out what "Desynching" meant.
And I always wanted to make a Wind, as a trophy of a wasted Sur
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MeshinLLD
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject:
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It used to be anyways, I searched around, but with the 1.11 patch it made runewords available to all realms. Thats cool :]
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OutlawHeaven
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Joined: 22 May 2005 Posts: 2274 BNet Acct/Realm: OutlawHeaven/OutlawHvn @USEast@Azeroth@AIM
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:21 pm Post subject:
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I have a hammderin, i think i'm pretty good at it. And i think i'm decently "skilled" with hammerdins =/
And i agree with Ehhh and Bel and thier comments.
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breakbeatz2
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:21 pm Post subject:
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desynching is when you appear somewhere on the screen but you are really somewhere else. Charging excessively does this as well as WW, and running with a lot of frw.
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Grim04
Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 4197 BNet Acct/Realm: Grim04/UWNL
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject:
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Splendor was always in West. It's just realm only, meaning no single player.
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