LLD101

[Mr.Snuggles]

So just curious, how has LLD changed recently? What are the 'norms' now-a-days, such as damage, character types, skills, etc. Please note, it's been about two years since I even touched D2, so I'm pretty behind the times right now.

Figured I'd maybe ask a few questions, maybe get back into D2.

So, are level 9 Assassins still abundant and easy to make?

Is there a new 'cookie-cutter' build now-a-days, besides the usual Sacrifice Paladin (Level 9), Zealot (12 or 1, TS Assassin (Level 9), Hammerdin (Level 30, because of Spirits coming out), etc.

Is it even worth attempting to start again, or would I be so far behind that it would be pointless?

What is the most common level dueler now?

Which realm would be my best bet, West or East? I don't intend on causing a debate with this question, just curious as to where most of the LLD'rs are now.

Can't seem to think of anymore questions, maybe as I get some replies I'll ask a few. Also, any new info would be a major help.

Much love ~Snuggles.

[Sloxx]

I just recently started playing d2 again this ladder - after not playing for 6+ years - and less than a month ago tried out LLD for the first time.

I'm no expert - but I definately wouldn't say you are "too far behind" - if I can pick it up anyone can - especially if you have prior knowledge of LLD.

With that said - while I would love to see another LLD'er on west ladder - it's far from the most active.

[Chewie]

I'm bored, so I'll try to answer.
-I see TS sins more than any other lvl 9. They're still "easy" to build, but the quality of vlld has gone up, IMO, so it'd be tough to compete with the elites
-15 regen smiters are fairly common now, as are lvl 30 FB/es sorcs. In fact, I'd say 30 FB is the "new" cookie cutter. That, and lvl 21 zealots. There are also a lot more WW barbs than there used to be.
-I'd say lvl 30's are the most common now
-There are quite a few "LLDers" on West NL. Whether the majority of them are 'likeable' is another question, but there are a handful that are fun to be around.

[Mr.Snuggles]

[Chewie]

-WW barbs use a range of things now: Robonaga/honor naga, duped swords, b letters. Naga is the most common right now I think.
-Kinda tough to say who's the best nec on west, we don't NvN as much as we used to. Plus, since the ladder reset, half of them are hellrushed, while half are not. The top ones I've seen in terms of mix of skill and gear krajee, viet, oleo, maybe 1 or 2 others that I'm forgetting. I can beat those guys in a duel, but my items suck compared to theirs.

[Puddles]

[InspectorOfBalls]

Europe ladder is a whole world of its own: lots of lvl 29 and 49 dueling but very little 9s and 18s. I made a bunch of level 18 llds and ive dueled only 2-3 that have consistently beat me. Pubbys are as bm as ever and only a charger is worth playing against the runners. Even so I still think its lots of fun. If your starting from scratch, Europe ladder offers tons of easy duels.

[meitou]

Useast NL is still very active. More 18s and 30s, some 15s too, but less lvl9s.

Pretty much every build is "cookie cutter" now, the "NEW BUILD!!!" people now attempts usually sucks. After all there are only so many builds and it's been so long.

[krajee]

[FudGe]

[Waramp]

[meitou]

[Mimes]

come to east ladder

you wont be far behind with a few exceptions. If you do decide to play east ladder i can prob hook u up with some lld or hl mfer stuff to start you off.

I helped Will out a bit when he started playing again just a few days ago.

As for cookie cutter builds....

lvl 30 h dins (most suck, some are very good)
lvl 30 fire sorcs (not as many)
Sooooo many lvl 18 zealots... i need to make my lvl 18 concer to pwn them...
as for vllds its mainly jabbers...

i havent llded in a while tho, so this might not be the most "up to date" list.

Anyways if u do come lld, come to East Ladder. pm me or add *Mimes. (with period) and *Mimes-LLD

ill prob come on in a little bit.

[heprea]

[MiKTeX]