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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:52 pm Post subject:
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i know, but i was asking him a question so he would make sure not to forget them becuase knowing joel he usually forgets things in his builds
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:09 pm Post subject:
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shdw_DeathAdder wrote: | i know, but i was asking him a question so he would make sure not to forget them becuase knowing joel he usually forgets things in his builds ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
well, next time ask him in a PM.
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:41 pm Post subject:
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Ugh, I quit LLD months ago and people still ask for advice O.O
I'm actually amazed this post got bumped again.
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:44 pm Post subject:
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What about Iron Skin Skill is it uselless?
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:50 pm Post subject:
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no, its a nice defense boost for 1 point.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject:
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ThatGuy wrote: | I assume your armor is a gothic plate) armor is 60 str required |
just thought i'd clear this up
All plain gothic plates are 70 str req, unless eth or -req jewel.
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ThatGuy
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:30 am Post subject:
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I was sure I proofread this, and I recall Gothic plates were 60 str. Did they change the reqs over patches? Because my barb followed that build with 63 str, so...yeah.
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject:
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Sorry to bring this back up, but im still trying to decide what build to make since i can only afford one at a time...is it possible to hit the 52ias breakpoint at this level? And for that matter, why doesn't the weapon speed [-10] on, lets say, cleglaws sword push it up to 52+?
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject:
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negative base speed weapons are faster than positive. so the -10 on clegs makes it easier to hit the bps. but without ias on your weapon (you basically need a godlike eth/rep rare with ias to be worthwhile) the most ias you'll have is 50
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:17 am Post subject:
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i know negative is faster, but whats the point of even having different weapon speeds if a fast weapon doesnt give you even 2 ias?
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:20 am Post subject:
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with a war axe (0) you need 30 ias for 12 frames and 50 ias for 11 frames
with a long sword (-10) you only need 30 ias for 11 frames. so that -10 is actually giving you 20 ias.
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:08 am Post subject:
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so then wouldnt you hit the 52 ias bp? deaths + twitch = 50, with the -10 = ?
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject:
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Torrent wrote: | so then wouldnt you hit the 52 ias bp? deaths + twitch = 50, with the -10 = ? | yes... but build dictates gothic plate (not twitch) and mil pick (not clegs).
Your version will work however zealots use clegs/twitch also and will rape your conc barb every time!!! IMHO the only way a conc barb will beat a zealot is to use more defense and have more dmg! gothic + mil pick gives the barb more defense and way more dmg than your ordinary cleg zealot.
If you have godly jewels then you have more options like 800+ defense ancient armors etc etc.
Main part of this build I think is the 3conc helm...anything less will not stand up to a good zealot. Finding that is the key to this build at least from what I see.
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