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Conquest101
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:05 am Post subject:
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Well, I've mostly been selling lld stuff I've found to the rest of you heh
But, I've been getting bored with my High lvl duelers and stuff, so I though I'd maybe throw one together for fun =) Probably gonna be fairly low- mid budget.
First of all, what's a good char class for general pking and dueling some friends (also low budget heh)
Lvl 18 I think
I was thinking Sin or Zealer/Charger
Also, what's the general equip setup? I know like 45+ max helm with ar if possible. 60+ max shield? 60+ max armor (is this possible at lvl 18? 4 soc I mean)
Anyway to get Deadly Strike at 18, since all/most of my damage is max.
Basically, all I know that's good for lld is the jewels/charms heh
Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks
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krajee
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:19 am Post subject:
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18 zealer would be the easiest char to make. you can search up a lot of information...the thing to remember is that you want life. dont take the 10x gc route....
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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a) search button
b) http://wirsz.phpwebhosting.com/LLDBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2702
have fun
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Conquest101
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:34 am Post subject:
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Sexy link, thanks much
Probably gonna go with a zealer
Read through it, only have a couple of major questions I guess
Cleglaws Set Sword - now this is interesting, 50 % deadly strike...
I believe that the glitch still exists where deadly strike always doubles your max damage I believe? So I lose around 60+ or so max damage over a military pick but pick up a potential double max damage every other hit.
What's the general opinion on this? Cleglaws > max mili pick/scepter or other way around? One nice thing I guess would be that Cleglaws would be cheaper....
What's a good number to shoot for in max damage/ life / ar / def? is def important?
Also, since I don't really plan to duel in any tournaments and such, is it worth it to push my lvl to 21 in order to pick up fine small charms and such?
Thanks again guys
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fadextoxblackx
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:40 am Post subject:
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lvl 18 zealot
life-at least 500
AR-1.5 k maybe more
Dmage-1k max at least
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krajee
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:09 am Post subject:
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I prefer the scepter to the sword.
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Conquest101
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:51 am Post subject:
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Thanks for replys.
Only question left I guess, is the one concerning lvl 21 vs lvl 18
What benefits are there to this? Fine small charms I guess and are there lvl 20 req jewels? (if so I don't think I've seen any heh)
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fadextoxblackx
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:54 am Post subject:
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id go lvl 21 cuz ive seen so many cookie cutter lvl 18 zealots, and im sure it wud get boring soo going to lvl 21 is at least a little out side the box (not alot but some).
but that cud just be me?!?
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Conquest101
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:59 am Post subject:
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Heh, yeah, a little I suppose.
The only major drawback I see is not being allowed in 18 req tourney's I guess heh
Shouldn't be too bad, I could always switch to a lvl 18 too, equip is the same I believe and only charms would need to be switched =)
Thanks everyone for all the help
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krajee
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:57 am Post subject:
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"Where I come from", we hate level 21 characters. They always hostile our level 18s, thinking that it is an even match. It is not even.
With a level 21 char, you could enter 27-30 melee/open for the current arena.
Oh and level 21 req jewels are jewels with +mana as a prefix...+2x mana or something like that.
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miataspeeder
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:40 am Post subject:
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krajee wrote: | "Where I come from", we hate level 21 characters. They always hostile our level 18s, thinking that it is an even match. It is not even.
With a level 21 char, you could enter 27-30 melee/open for the current arena.
Oh and level 21 req jewels are jewels with +mana as a prefix...+2x mana or something like that. |
Do not forget that magic small charm. The 3max/ ar / lifer it is level 21.
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krajee
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:42 am Post subject:
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miataspeeder wrote: | krajee wrote: | "Where I come from", we hate level 21 characters. They always hostile our level 18s, thinking that it is an even match. It is not even.
With a level 21 char, you could enter 27-30 melee/open for the current arena.
Oh and level 21 req jewels are jewels with +mana as a prefix...+2x mana or something like that. |
Do not forget that magic small charm. The 3max/ ar / lifer it is level 21. |
That charm is what makes it an uneven match.
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ATOMICMAN
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:54 am Post subject:
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krajee wrote: | I prefer the scepter to the sword. |
i will say it again clegs=best skilled scepter anyone disputing his we can hop on open and well duel about a 100 times or more and keep track. it will come out about equal in the results. with best gear lvl 18 zealot with clegs gets about 780 life (with max grands) hittin for 1.3k pure physical without ds (with ds at 50% thats about 1.8k damage average max) and about 2.5k ar where as a scepter user will get about 1.8k damage with other stats similar or if you go the life you get about 1.4k damage with 3k ar or so with 1k life either way it comes out about the same in wins/loses
clegs makes a cheaper option also only needing one jewel as opposed to 5 and you have to get a nice scepter (if you go scepter get a +conc one not +zeal unless you can get boh on the same scepter) and with my tests on open i was using a 15% ed sup scepter with +3 conc and +3 zeal
also if you can afford the charms max grands with stats or life > small life charms imo because to get equal ar you spend just as much in life/ar smalls to even the playing field
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Conquest101
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:56 pm Post subject:
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Heh, I'd have no intention on picking on lvl 18's with this char, since I know that 3/xx/xx small charms make a big difference. I'd only duel such chars if they wanted to. (probably beat me anyways <.<)
I've decided to start off with cleglaws and if I pick up more equip or find a nice scepter, I'll switch to that.
I have enough jewels and such for the helm/shield/armor, and I can get all the set stuff quickly enough.
Now I just need to find the time to build him XD
Thanks for the input guys.
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