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Inexorable
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:41 pm Post subject:
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Voices and I were musing about this possible build idea, it being an eshield/tstorm light sorc that well.. runs.
Build would be as follows:
7 T-Storm
7 E-Shield
11-Telekinesis
1 - Lightning Mastery
1 - Warmth*
Rest - Pre-reqs.
Gear, thus far, will be as follows:
Helm: 2light/20fcr/4xlife/3xmana circlet (1 open socket)
Armor: 35/13 Vipermagi (open socket
Shield: Visceratuant for pre-casting, Whitstan's for actual dueling
Weapon: 2light/3tstorm AND 2light/3energy shield orbs for pre-casting.
Boots: Sander's
Belt: string, otherwise death's belt
Gloves: Frostburn
Rings: 2x SoJ
Ammy: 2Light/life/mana rare
As for how this build would duel... well.. it would run. T-Storm would do the work. Calcs put the damage around 56x-7xx listed, which would turn out to be something like 27 average pvp damage against someone with 75 resists and no mdr.
As for sockets, Shael in the whitstan's if it'll reach another FBR bp, and most likely PSapphires in circlet/armor for more mana. Hell.. even Sols wouldn't be a half bad idea.
EShield, after all the +skills, gets somewhere around 70% absorb or so, with 11 hard points in telekinesis to back it up.
Benefits: NO fcr needed. No aim needed.
Downsides: 75+ light resist kills this build, minions of any kind are an effective counter.. kinda low damage as well from t-storm.
Does this sound reasonably fun?
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:02 pm Post subject:
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i think it would be fun for when you're bored and just feel like messing with the pubbies. as for actually competing against other llders, i'd say it's just like any other off the wall build, it won't last long but hey, you never know. as for me, i don't think i'd like to play this build for long. i mean, all you do is run, i can't see how that can be fun for more than an hour, tops.
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Hades
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:28 pm Post subject:
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Hmm yes i think it would get boring after the first begining novelty of it wore off but wouldnt it be better to use spirit sword as your dueling choice while you can prebuff with storm and shield? extra Fhr, Life, mana sound like good bonuses for this build.....
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VoicesLLD
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:40 pm Post subject:
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dsm-hades wrote: | Hmm yes i think it would get boring after the first begining novelty of it wore off but wouldnt it be better to use spirit sword as your dueling choice while you can prebuff with storm and shield? extra Fhr, Life, mana sound like good bonuses for this build..... |
considering you can get a godly orb with +2 light skills +3 tstorm +3 light mastry (meaning +5 of your main skills), i think the bonuses from spirit are outweighed. especially when you need the more +skills you can get. if all he can get is a +2 light skills orb, then yes, an ETH crystal sword would be best, assuming he is making it on ladder.
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Inexorable
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject:
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VoicesLLD wrote: | dsm-hades wrote: | Hmm yes i think it would get boring after the first begining novelty of it wore off but wouldnt it be better to use spirit sword as your dueling choice while you can prebuff with storm and shield? extra Fhr, Life, mana sound like good bonuses for this build..... |
considering you can get a godly orb with +2 light skills +3 tstorm +3 light mastry (meaning +5 of your main skills), i think the bonuses from spirit are outweighed. especially when you need the more +skills you can get. if all he can get is a +2 light skills orb, then yes, an ETH crystal sword would be best, assuming he is making it on ladder. |
I'd make an Insight Staff for switch on ladder and let it sit until reset.
I have a 2light/2tstorm orb right now, semi-undecided on whether to buy the circlet. Guy wants 5 runes, and hell, I could gamble something similar.
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Knarl wrote: | 4-3 for inexorable again in melee. 10 life...pssh. |
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VoicesLLD
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:08 pm Post subject:
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if you;er only going to use it for this build ben, dont waste the runes. thats a rediculous price for a +2 LIGHT skills circlet. and you dont need the FCR.
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Ehhh
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:11 pm Post subject:
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Can t-storm be "prebuffed" as in, you cast with the orb and switch, will the hits still use the dmg from your prebuff?
If so I would highly recommend a spirit sword for the absolutely massive fhr and massive mana.
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Inexorable
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:07 am Post subject:
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For pre-buffing, I am not entirely sure, but am leaning toward yes.
Jason, I pulled out of that deal. For what I'd end up using it for, I could just gamble a magical +2 light circlet. Jeez.. most of the gear would be pre-buffing... maybe get lucky and have a +blizzard mod on the Insight staff, to slow them down and run circles around them?
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Knarl wrote: | 4-3 for inexorable again in melee. 10 life...pssh. |
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CareBearsRule
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:15 am Post subject:
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Cancerofdabowel wrote: | VoicesLLD wrote: | dsm-hades wrote: | Hmm yes i think it would get boring after the first begining novelty of it wore off but wouldnt it be better to use spirit sword as your dueling choice while you can prebuff with storm and shield? extra Fhr, Life, mana sound like good bonuses for this build..... |
considering you can get a godly orb with +2 light skills +3 tstorm +3 light mastry (meaning +5 of your main skills), i think the bonuses from spirit are outweighed. especially when you need the more +skills you can get. if all he can get is a +2 light skills orb, then yes, an ETH crystal sword would be best, assuming he is making it on ladder. |
I'd make an Insight Staff for switch on ladder and let it sit until reset.
I have a 2light/2tstorm orb right now, semi-undecided on whether to buy the circlet. Guy wants 5 runes, and hell, I could gamble something similar. |
Insights can only be in polearms.
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:29 am Post subject:
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Then why do I have a + 3 ES Battle Staff Insight?
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Inexorable
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:48 am Post subject:
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CareBearsRule wrote: | Cancerofdabowel wrote: | VoicesLLD wrote: | dsm-hades wrote: | Hmm yes i think it would get boring after the first begining novelty of it wore off but wouldnt it be better to use spirit sword as your dueling choice while you can prebuff with storm and shield? extra Fhr, Life, mana sound like good bonuses for this build..... |
considering you can get a godly orb with +2 light skills +3 tstorm +3 light mastry (meaning +5 of your main skills), i think the bonuses from spirit are outweighed. especially when you need the more +skills you can get. if all he can get is a +2 light skills orb, then yes, an ETH crystal sword would be best, assuming he is making it on ladder. |
I'd make an Insight Staff for switch on ladder and let it sit until reset.
I have a 2light/2tstorm orb right now, semi-undecided on whether to buy the circlet. Guy wants 5 runes, and hell, I could gamble something similar. |
Insights can only be in polearms. |
Just because that's what people choose to make them out of doesn't necessarily mean that's the ONLY thing they can be made out of.
EBOTD doesn't read: 6-socket Eth Superior Zerks, CB's, War Pikes, and T-Mauls
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Knarl wrote: | Inexorable beat LittleKnarl, 4-3. Grumble grumble. My poor smiter. |
Knarl wrote: | 4-3 for inexorable again in melee. 10 life...pssh. |
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VoicesLLD
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:32 am Post subject:
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CareBearsRule wrote: |
Insights can only be in polearms. |
we like to keep lld101 as rumor free as possible. if you dont know something for a fact (ie: you didnt actually research into it to make sure you werent putting your foot in your mouth), dont say it. in this case, you were wrong.
Insight
4 Socket Polearms/Staves Ral + Tir + Tal + Sol
Level 12-17 Meditation Aura When Equipped (varies)
+35% Faster Cast Rate
+200-260% Enhanced Damage (varies)
+9 To Minimum Damage
180-250% Bonus to Attack Rating (varies)
Adds 5-30 Fire Damage
+75 Poison Damage Over 5 Seconds
+1-6 To Critical Strike (varies)
+5 To All Attributes
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
23% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/runewords.shtml
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:37 pm Post subject:
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VoicesLLD wrote: | CareBearsRule wrote: |
Insights can only be in polearms. |
we like to keep lld101 as rumor free as possible. if you dont know something for a fact (ie: you didnt actually research into it to make sure you werent putting your foot in your mouth), dont say it. in this case, you were wrong.
Insight
4 Socket Polearms/Staves Ral + Tir + Tal + Sol
Level 12-17 Meditation Aura When Equipped (varies)
+35% Faster Cast Rate
+200-260% Enhanced Damage (varies)
+9 To Minimum Damage
180-250% Bonus to Attack Rating (varies)
Adds 5-30 Fire Damage
+75 Poison Damage Over 5 Seconds
+1-6 To Critical Strike (varies)
+5 To All Attributes
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
23% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/runewords.shtml |
Oh, I didnt see the stave part then. =/
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Hades
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:47 pm Post subject:
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Ehhh wrote: | Can t-storm be "prebuffed" as in, you cast with the orb and switch, will the hits still use the dmg from your prebuff?
If so I would highly recommend a spirit sword for the absolutely massive fhr and massive mana. |
This is what i was suggesting.. but is it the same as attempting to prebuff HS and only counts for what skills you are using ie for my smiter i dont get any extra advantage from casting with 2 x spirits for HS, the dmg dosnt seem to go over to my barbed shield...
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject:
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dsm-hades wrote: | This is what i was suggesting.. but is it the same as attempting to prebuff HS and only counts for what skills you are using ie for my smiter i dont get any extra advantage from casting with 2 x spirits for HS, the dmg dosnt seem to go over to my barbed shield... |
i seem to remember someone saying that even though it doesn't display you doing the extra damage from the prebuff, it still does.
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