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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject:  Pardon my emo query
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Why must the earth continue? Is there any real reason? And please, no ad hominem arguments.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:54 pm    Post subject:  


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject:  

Whats the difference in a liberal and Al Qaeda?

Oh... you don't know either?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:04 pm    Post subject:  

not not licking toads again?

i believe that a "liberal" by political denotation, favors government regulation in a structure having several institutions that simultaneously mediate the national agenda.

so a liberal favors generous government oversight. the conservative does not
Al Qaeda im pretty sure is a sunni junta. not a person

did u mean the difference between a liberal and a member of the taliban or AL Qaedian(sp?) ? hmmm, if anything the Taliban are conservative. so i suppose they want freedom, even freedom from "freedom". liberals are basically communist by comparison... if one dials the knob far enough

and i dont believe there is any reason to the earth at all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject:  

plus won
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject:  

Wank wrote:
Whats the difference in a liberal and Al Qaeda?

Oh... you don't know either?


Absolutely pathetic...

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:54 pm    Post subject:  

1) Because thermodynamics hasn't won yet.
2) Because there has yet to be a human or collective group with just the right combination of power, resources, (insanity and malevolence) OR (ignorance and stubbornness) .
2) Because God is still waiting for the right time.

Pick whatever answer makes you the happiest, I guess!

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Whats the difference in a liberal and Al Qaeda?

Many, many things.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject:  

Give me a good answer, seriously, I want to know why it should. Why must we continue life when it is a tautology of pain? Seriously, no more crap from you guys, I want to hear your reasons.


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2) Because God is still waiting for the right time.

If all humans collectively decided not to procreate and human life ceased to exist, that wouldn't matter.

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and i dont believe there is any reason to the earth at all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

I find it funny that my philosophical belief is in a box on that page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

On a side note, I didn't intend on this being a political conversation. I couldn't care less about both candidates, I just go with the lesser of two evils.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject:  

Wank wrote:
If all humans collectively decided not to procreate and human life ceased to exist, that wouldn't matter.


Well, my assumption was that if someone picked (3), then they probably believe in some sort of continuity after death, and thus they would argue that it would still matter.

Edit: Actually I take that back, I guess they would argue that it wouldn't matter since life on earth would be pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of eternal life. I.. I don't know. Look it was a joke post anyways leave me alone!@!@

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Why must we continue life when it is a tautology of pain?

While I'm certainly thrilled that you've picked up some new words since the days of yesteryear, I think the question is pretty silly. You can't easily provide any purely objective reason without claiming that we as a species have some 'purpose' for existing. However, the very concept of purpose requires subjectivity--in a purely objective and deterministic world, the idea of purpose is absurd.

So, an equally valid question would be "why not?". Again, an objective reason can't be constructed (see above). A subjective answer can't work either because there wouldn't actually BE any human subjectivity if life didn't exist.

So I guess as long as the world is here you can either come up with some personal reasons for why you should keep living or.. not.


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I just go with the lesser of two evils.

A very non-nihilistic standpoint, don't you think?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject:  

Goky wrote:
Wank wrote:
If all humans collectively decided not to procreate and human life ceased to exist, that wouldn't matter.


Well, my assumption was that if someone picked (3), then they probably believe in some sort of continuity after death, and thus they would argue that it would still matter.

Edit: Actually I take that back, I guess they would argue that it wouldn't matter since life on earth would be pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of eternal life. I.. I don't know. Look it was a joke post anyways leave me alone!@!@

Lol, ok, just so you know I pressed quote right when you edited. And also, if this did actually happen, a true believer would be forced to believe God willed it to be, since God is omnipotent.

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Why must we continue life when it is a tautology of pain?

While I'm certainly thrilled that you've picked up some new words since the days of yesteryear, I think the question is pretty silly. You can't easily provide any purely objective reason without claiming that we as a species have some 'purpose' for existing. However, the very concept of purpose requires subjectivity--in a purely objective and deterministic world, the idea of purpose is absurd.

So, an equally valid question would be "why not?". Again, an objective reason can't be constructed (see above). A subjective answer can't work either because there wouldn't actually BE any human subjectivity if life didn't exist.

So I guess as long as the world is here you can either come up with some personal reasons for why you should keep living or.. not.


You bring up a good point. But we have continued the earth for so long now, why not try something different? Its not like we experience any true joy throughout our existence.

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I just go with the lesser of two evils.

A very non-nihilistic standpoint, don't you think?


Honestly, it is. But seeing how I will be fighting for one of the two, it behooves me to do so Confused

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:11 am    Post subject:  

what is true joy? i have had some i think. my ignorance allows me to feel pleasure in relation to pain on the spectrum of our senses.

inferred to ultra violet
high frequencies to low frequencies
soft to firm
cold to hot
pain to.. nothing?

there would have to be pleasure bc paradoxicly the only reason something exists is because it has an opposite. think of the opposite of your pain.. whatever that is. that opposite is as close to a purpose as i can describe

i find it somewhat ironic that we could point out endless or meaningless ideas to our existence when also historically just questioning it is endless and unanswerable, truly. talking about it illustrates the lack of a single definition.

first rule of life club, you do not talk about life club

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject:  

The only biological reason for life to continue is merely to reproduce. That is the only real (true) purpose for any organism. Some just do it a little more creatively than others.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject:  

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inferred to ultra violet
high frequencies to low frequencies
soft to firm
cold to hot
pain to.. nothing?

Pain to pleasure. Pleasure comes as a result in this unbalanced equation. Let me ask you this, is the minuscule amount of pleasure that you receive from your pain worth it? Pain is continual. Pleasure is not worth the pain you go through, and you know it as well as I!

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what is true joy? i have had some i think.

Is that joy really there?
Joy - An emotion made up my man to deceive himself into thinking life is less painful than it really is. I deem it as a placebo effect.

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The only biological reason for life to continue is merely to reproduce.

Why should we procreate, what does it essentially do, and why must we do it?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject:  

Wank wrote:

Pain to pleasure. Pleasure comes as a result in this unbalanced equation. Let me ask you this, is the minuscule amount of pleasure that you receive from your pain worth it? Pain is continual. Pleasure is not worth the pain you go through, and you know it as well as I!


"Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something."
pain is definable as consequence. a threshold exists between pain and pleasure but this means there is no source,, only your subjective threshold.

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Is that joy really there?
just as much as pain is really there

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Joy - An emotion made up my man to deceive himself into thinking life is less painful than it really is. I deem it as a placebo effect.
man didnt construct mans senses. i dont even follow you on this.

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Why should we procreate, what does it essentially do, and why must we do it?
so we can make others miserable and feel pain
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject:  

Wank, you should print out some of your stuff and keep it safe, then read it and laugh in a few years time.

Im not insulting you, its just funny to see how our own ideas change over time.
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