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ghet0dan
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:29 pm Post subject:
level 28 smiter help Subject description: eek what gear to use xD |
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1 Might
1 Blessed Aim
1 Concentration
20 Smite
1 Holy Bolt
1 Charge
1 Blessed Hammer
6 Holy Shield
Thats basically my skill setting (i think).
P.S. borrowed from Torrent's lvl 29 smiter skill set.
I wanted to make it lvl 28 so it'll be tournament friendly. This is what i think i'll use atm, but im not sure.
Weapon
6 shaeled military pick
Shield
probably some barbed shield socked with rhyme. (nice and cheap)
Ammy
Probably any decent lvl 28 ammy that gives skills and life
Rings
Stat rings until i can afford Sojs.
Boots
Either Sanders(stats maybe?) or Goblin toe for crushing blow
And for hat, glove, belt, and armor I have no idea xD any critique would be greatly appreciated![/b]
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krajee
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject:
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shaels have a level requirement of 29.
There are three ways to build your smiter: strength cutlass, +skill/20-30ias war scepter, and monk's cutlass of swiftness.
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ghet0dan
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject:
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krajee wrote: | shaels have a level requirement of 29.
There are three ways to build your smiter: strength cutlass, +skill/20-30ias war scepter, and monk's cutlass of swiftness. |
Are their cheap alternatives? Or should i just go for level 29 for shaels =/
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krajee
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject:
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oops, my mistake, I meant strength scimitar, not cutlass. That would be your cheapest option.
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fuh
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:59 pm Post subject:
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its simple as what krajee said if u are planing to make him for melee category your best bet is those weapons I can add monk's flail of swiftness there..
but if u want shaels and sojs u wont be able to compete on melee which means u can lvl him to lvl30.. and chose different weapon options..
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Torrent
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject:
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I was thinking about making a guide for this. Seeing that you need help i think i will, but ill just give you options for now.
option 1: Strength Cutlass (yes krajee, you meant Cutlass) on a 7 frame smiter, who needs only deaths gloves/belt to reach the bp. your helm and armor would be pcrown and spirit shroud. youd be slower but with 25% more cb.
option 2: Monk's Cutlass of Swiftness for 6 frame, using deaths combo and twitch with it for a total of 70 ias (65 needed for the bp). helm would still be pcrown.
also youll need a monks barbed shield of deflecting, of course a rare would be better but idk if you can get your hands on one.
edit: i dont see how your skills work here.
ghet0dan wrote: | 1 Might
1 Blessed Aim
1 Concentration
20 Smite
1 Holy Bolt
1 Charge
1 Blessed Hammer
6 Holy Shield |
It adds up to 32, which isnt your total for either norm or hell rushing. If you want to be good in tourneys id say just get a hell rush (even though i dont like them). smiters are the only characters with a level cap now (jerks) so youll want as many skills as you can get.
Hell rushed gives you 39 skills, this is what i would do:
1 Might
1 Blessed Aim
9 Conc
20 Smite
1 Bolt
1 Charge
1 Hammer
5 Holy Shield (max at this level)
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krajee
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject:
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No, I meant scimitar. You'd use the +str from the scimitar to equip your barbed shield, which will be socketed with +dex jewels rather than dex/-req jewels which are more expensive. Remember that sander's gloves give 20ias and 40life.
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Dao Jones
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject:
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krajee wrote: | No, I meant scimitar. |
Why? Cutlasses are 25 Str req, which is the Paladin's base strength anyway. Plus, they're faster than Scimitars; Scimitars need 40% IAS to hit 7 frames, whereas Cutlasses only need 24%.
I considered making a 28 Smiter, and this was the gear I had planned for him:
Helm: Pcrown (unless you have a good circlet laying around)
Armor: Spirit Shroud. CBF and low Str req = good. Also consider +Life armor, or go the high Defense route with some Ancient Plate. Or, go the other way and use an Up'd (or not up'd) Twitch. Twitch + Holy Shield = 25 points saved on Dex achieving max block with a Barbed Shield. (Assuming +25% block from HS)
Shield: Same suggestions as above. Or, if you don't mind losing a little damage (most of your power comes from cb, anyways), use an Akaran Rondache with Spirit, and enjoy the many fine bonuses.
Ammy/Rings: +Stats/res/mana . SoJs are 29 anyway, and you don't really need 'em. Consider a Mahim-Oak Curio for your ammy. +10 stats, +10 res, +10% Def (and +10 Def on top of that).
Boots: GToes. No question.
Weapon: I have a 2os eth Flail I was considering (for better range), but then I need 30% IAS to hit the 8 frame breakpoint. A Strength Cutlass (which I also have) only needs 24% for the 7 frame BP, so you trade speed for range. Or go crazy, and use a War Scepter (2 range, same speed as a Flail, but you get +skills). But use Strength, whatever you socket it in.
Gloves: Anything with 24% or better IAS, like Death's Gloves. (And Belt if you don't wear Spirit Shroud.)
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Hades
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:05 am Post subject:
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Why an eth flail? to save 10 stat points? Smite still damages the weapon...
Angelic amu and 1 ring is a good starting point as it adds alot of life. But work on etting better rares, I believe you can also craft some decent +stat rings.
Other weapon options would be "steel" Cutlass, it gives 25% ias (already 7 frame) and 50% OW not as good as CB by far but the ias can allow you to hit the fastest smite bp with Sanders gloves and Twitch armour.
Always cast Holyshield with as large a prebuff as you can on switch, optimally a +4 holyshield scepter (or a spirit sword +2) with a spirit shield to boost your dmg. The screen dosnt show your damage increase but it does.
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lld_newb
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:24 am Post subject:
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deaths for vs cold dmg chars and crushing blow belt/gloves for smite vs smite mebe?
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Dao Jones
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:06 am Post subject:
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dsm-hades wrote: | Why an eth flail? to save 10 stat points? Smite still damages the weapon... |
To save stat points on the initial equip, although it isn't really a big issue, it might save a few stat points. Strength isn't too expensive to make (Amn+Tir), and eth 2os Flails are not too uncommon.
Quote: | Other weapon options would be "steel" Cutlass, it gives 25% ias (already 7 frame) and 50% OW not as good as CB by far but the ias can allow you to hit the fastest smite bp with Sanders gloves and Twitch armour. |
I'm not sure it's worth losing the CB to trade for a little IAS/Life. You'd literally be losing half your CB.
lld_newb wrote: | crushing blow belt/gloves for smite vs smite mebe? |
I'm pretty sure CB doesn't spawn on belts. I think for Smite v. Smite you'd want DR, which I guess you could get from a Safety Belt or on a lucky roll on a Blood Belt.
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject:
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or 4 Sol'd pally shield with high smtie dmg
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ghet0dan
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for all the advice. Imma just try to MF a decent Cutlass or warscepter with + smite with conc (hopefully). Am i better off doing Angelic Ammy+ring for the extra life or go with Mahim-Oak Curio for the + stats which would be kickarse? Probably going to go with the spirit shroud which i have atm probably would go high defense if i find some decent eth/repair godlike armors :].
Also does warscepter have the same speed+range as a cutlass? or is it better to go warscepter? Andd when i socket it i suppose its best to socket with +strength/dex or should i go to the regenerating smiter style.
edit: also how difficult is it to find a monks barbed shield of deflecting? Also what does the monks prefix add on?
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Torrent
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject:
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ghet0dan wrote: | Thanks for all the advice. Imma just try to MF a decent Cutlass or warscepter with + smite with conc (hopefully). Am i better off doing Angelic Ammy+ring for the extra life or go with Mahim-Oak Curio for the + stats which would be kickarse? Probably going to go with the spirit shroud which i have atm probably would go high defense if i find some decent eth/repair godlike armors :].
Also does warscepter have the same speed+range as a cutlass? or is it better to go warscepter? Andd when i socket it i suppose its best to socket with +strength/dex or should i go to the regenerating smiter style.
edit: also how difficult is it to find a monks barbed shield of deflecting? Also what does the monks prefix add on? |
Monk's adds 1 to all pali skills, and it can spawn on both a sword and shield.
Don't use Mahim-Oak, you definitely want a +skill ammy.
A War Scepter has range 2, and Cutlass has range 1.
Much of this could be resolved if Dao would take my advice. Let smiters go to level 30, but ban shael runes on them (at least for weapons), just like Insights are being banned on palis.
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lld_newb
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject:
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cuz the medi will stack but thats a different story
Don't get a high def armor because smite goes through it, maybe a 3 socket life armor with 3 Sol's so you rape smite vs smite
+1pally 20frw life circlet with a nice stat jewel or Pruby would be rad
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