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Vixen
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject:
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They're not nearly as effective Mfers, they just can't carry as much MF gear.
Sorc's can go through anything too - Infinity and that's without sacrificing much MF gear for damage gear.
I've got an SC Hammy with 10k damage Using P Chances,P Nagels, P Travs and using all that (which my HC sorc uses) he can't kill nearly as fast.
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Argg0
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject:
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If you can't kill fast with 10k hammers, you gotta work your hammer skills. My old hammerdin could do runs in a good time with 3-4k hammers.
It may just be me, but my hybrid kicker (dragon talon and death sentry) do really good on PvM, she can't die at all (sometimes I die to corpse explo though, or those lame vipers) even though I don't have godly gear.
But, on duels, it is crap. I win all duels against bowzons, they can't really do nothing, no matter how godly their gear is, but the other classes eat me.
But all around, I think Hammerdins or Wind Druids are the best.
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Wank
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:11 am Post subject:
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Lets see your "godly" blizz sorc kill a hell zombie 1v1.. No merc.
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LLD-Vamp
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:20 am Post subject:
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Imp wrote: | Lets see your "godly" blizz sorc kill a hell zombie 1v1.. No merc. |
Lets see a "godly" blizz sorc have a reason to have no merc and kill a hell zombie....
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Wank
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:25 am Post subject:
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The point is hammerdins dont need any help, and mf% can easily be taken care of by gheeds + 7 mf scs, you only need about 250-350 im pretty sure, and shako ( w/ ptopaz ) 74% enigma 90% ( assuming lvl 90 )
164%+ a gheeds thats 2004%, few more mf scs thats 250. And hammerdins are generally cheaper.
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Twisted-Prodigy
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:50 am Post subject:
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Imp wrote: | The point is hammerdins dont need any help, and mf% can easily be taken care of by gheeds + 7 mf scs, you only need about 250-350 im pretty sure, and shako ( w/ ptopaz ) 74% enigma 90% ( assuming lvl 90 )
164%+ a gheeds thats 2004%, few more mf scs thats 250. And hammerdins are generally cheaper. |
agree'd.... hammerdins are the best..... why are we even talking about a blizz sorc?!?!?
we know that hammerdins are the best... so lets not have a stupid arguement!
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LLD-Vamp
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:01 am Post subject:
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Twisted-Prodigy wrote: | Imp wrote: | The point is hammerdins dont need any help, and mf% can easily be taken care of by gheeds + 7 mf scs, you only need about 250-350 im pretty sure, and shako ( w/ ptopaz ) 74% enigma 90% ( assuming lvl 90 )
164%+ a gheeds thats 2004%, few more mf scs thats 250. And hammerdins are generally cheaper. |
agree'd.... hammerdins are the best..... why are we even talking about a blizz sorc?!?!?
we know that hammerdins are the best... so lets not have a stupid arguement! |
A sorc is a far better MFer than a hammerdin, this thread makes no sense.
For dueling there are lots of chars that are better than a hammerdin.
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Twisted-Prodigy
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:46 am Post subject:
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umm ok, yeah the whole point of this topic i created was to see what people think are the best characters, so yeh my last post about mf'ing isn't even on topic, but i would still say a barb is #1 characters, to take on all different characters, if used correctly barbs are strong .vs. any other build!
end of conversation, i think most other people agree too
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B[x]
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject:
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Twisted-Prodigy wrote: | end of conversation, i think most other people agree too |
If you "know" what most others think and don't want to carry out a conversation about it, why start the thread and ask the question to begin with?
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Twisted-Prodigy
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject:
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B[x] wrote: | Twisted-Prodigy wrote: | end of conversation, i think most other people agree too |
If you "know" what most others think and don't want to carry out a conversation about it, why start the thread and ask the question to begin with? |
because i wanted to see what other people thought, like to argue or agree a little bit.... not just go way caried away into a different direction like mf'ing, well in a way it got lead there.... but wanted to keep it to dueling also.... + didn't want to argue anymore with him about sorc's and barb's lol!
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Wank
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:21 am Post subject:
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I dont understand your thinking vamp, a sorc isnt better than an mfer I do like arguing about it, but it's like you fail to see the obvious, or you have turned a blind eye.
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Twisted-Prodigy
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:48 am Post subject:
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Imp wrote: | I dont understand your thinking vamp, a sorc isnt better than an mfer I do like arguing about it, but it's like you fail to see the obvious, or you have turned a blind eye. |
agree'd! lol
i think me and you are on the same page!
maybe sorc's can take out boss's faster but like still all around as the topic says, all around.....hammerdins takes i think with a good merc!
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LLD-Vamp
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject:
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Twisted-Prodigy wrote: | Imp wrote: | I dont understand your thinking vamp, a sorc isnt better than an mfer I do like arguing about it, but it's like you fail to see the obvious, or you have turned a blind eye. |
agree'd! lol
i think me and you are on the same page!
maybe sorc's can take out boss's faster but like still all around as the topic says, all around.....hammerdins takes i think with a good merc! |
Honestly a sorc with an infinity merc will be far faster for PvM and better for duels assuming GM (no merc obviously).
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Elusive
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject:
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LLD-Vamp wrote: |
Honestly a sorc with an infinity merc will be far faster for PvM and better for duels assuming GM (no merc obviously). |
yes ive seen mf merc infinity sorcs and they are quite fast. i just find doing ~10k "irresitable" damage far more efficent.
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Wank
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:07 am Post subject:
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Yep, pure dmg is far better than damage that can and is reduced.
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