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[Jerkazoid]

ok those of u who dont know there is a small feature since 1.10 came out that will ensure every drop u get is failed-set or better and without the usual gold or potions and crap like that, this is called the Quest drop.

1) All Act bosses have a Quest drop

2) Quest drops are given when any Character kills a boss, who is without the quest for it. (u do not have to get the quest to do this)
remeber u must NOT have the quest to get this and therefore the character must stay in that act to perpetually do this.

3) Quest kills are of rare or higher quality (sometimes u do get magicals bc those are failed set) u need NO mf to get this,, however mf is still checked and can help with sets and uniques

simply have a friend make a game with a charcter who has the quest for the particular boss completed (or just join a game and see if u "cannot complete"), then use the character without the quest to get the kill. Watch, as aboout 4-6 rare, set, or unique items fall from them everytime.

it is possible to do this all by yourself, you can make the game with 1 charater, quickly exit, and then re-nter with the new character. do this in under 10 seconds and it should work fine. i do this often enough to know it works.

Baal(mlvl 60) and Diablo(mlvl40) in normal are probably the best places for this (NM andy(mlvl 49) does not need this as there is already a bug for her)*

I find Baal to be my favorite.. But baal will not drop all the nice exceptionals that all u LLD wish, only up to about qlvl 40, (this is the first 2 or 3 on the list of exceptionals when u check arreat summit).

for the rest of them u need to check NM andy. or do the same quest drop trick with NM Mephisto, But keep in mind its real tough to get qlvl 45-55 (things like Nagas, harpoons, gothic bows) from NM meph to spawn with alvl 34-39 mods.

Circlets
another thing i want to bring up is the popularity of circlets. (not coronets or higher)

+2 skill trees are obviously the most popular and this is alvl 40
so on a circlet u want ilvl 37+ (so killing Monsters at lvl 37 would be wise)

Diablo would be IDEAL to utilize the quest reward feature on, 1/40 kills will land u a cirlect, and its at a perfect Ilvl for LLD.

since gambling is clvl -5 to +4 u would do so at Clvl 42 to ensure u could get +2 skills everytime. since u could also get as high as ilvl 46, this yields alvl 49 mods, here is a list of the mods that would go over the 30 req

[EDIT] Use the runeword "Edge" on a 3sock bow to lower vendor costs 15% on your clvl 42

prismatic (req 31)
of prescision (req 35)
of the locust (req 35)
of the giant (req 34)
Of life (req 33)
confusion (necro needs not worry)
teleport (sorc need not worry)
twister (druid need not worry)

magical only mods that are above 30 i left out

another option on rare circlets is the 6 skull option. circlets are not that common, and whenever u can amass some Perfect skulls u might as well use them to there fullest LLD potential.

remeber that circlets get a +3 to their Alvl bc of thier magiclvl bonus.
this means u want to stay at the ilvl 37 during cubing
since 6 pskulls ilvl = clvl *.4 + ilvl*4

if u use a character at lvl 58 u can maintain the ilvl at 37 or 38 with a circlet from Diablo after the 2nd time in the cube.

EDIT
i giant list of desirable VLLD and LLD items has been created on the Dii.net forums, it contains a huge amount of info
http://forums.diii.net/showthread.php?t=552978

[Knarl]

Stickied for good reason.

One thing though...you might want to explain the andy bug since you only put an asterisk by where you mentioned it and you didn't explain what it is.

[VoicesLLD]

to save him the time.


"kinda correct, if the game was made by someone that needs andy dead (needs the quest) and you kill andy, youll get better drops. if it was made by someone whose already killed her before, youll get average drops."

[Jerkazoid]

[Jerkazoid]

Additional News

the anya quest reward can also be a small help. she will always give normal items in normal, Exceptionals in NM and elites in hell...always

the ilvl = clvl at the moment u recieve the item. therefore it is possible to generate an exact ilvl for an exceptional item from NM Anya to guarentee a certain alvl.

id advise using this calc to figure out what ilvl u need for a certain item.
[edit] July 2010 to make sure this is up dated, affix calc here
http://diablo3.ingame.de/spiel/expansion/itemdb/affix_index.php?lang=en&version=lod&patch=111

the problem comes from the variety of exceptionals (or lack there off)
for instance zons seem to only get Stag/Ashwoods/mat bows.. never the reflex/matron type,, and ofcourse if u want cerimonial javs,,, u only have a 1/3 chance for it.

as another example assasins get all sorts of katar types, from the ever hated cestus type.. to the preffered talons or wrist spike.

to those of u familiar with the pal/necro/sorc/druid items recieved, u are the better judge of wheather good will come out of these searchs,, i on the other hand, havent much clue.

players should be able to get a decent rare off a few anya runs in their normal rushing routine

[meitou]

I guess this only works for act Bosses?

[Jerkazoid]

yes; andy dury, meph, D and baal and thats it

[hot karl]

im back(its been awhile) i was wondering if u could just use a lvl1 in act1 to make a game then jump in with a diff char or do i have to be in that certian act


~i guess my sig doesnt work on my new comp(not a new one just a new one for me b/c my mom thinks i put viruses in the nice one so it sucks playing on a lagging crap comp)

[K-Lined]

Does the andy quest drop bug only work in nm or in normal too?

Say i'll make a fire-mf sorc just for normal andy, what i have to do is complete all quests in A1 in the right order and talk to a npc right after i kill her the first time and after that i should always get quest drops every time i kill her, is that correct?

[Jerkazoid]

karl, wich trick u trying to do? the baal "cannot complete" trick? the person who makes the game needs to HAVE baal quest done... then the person who jumps into the game is the one permenantly stuck in act5 who "cannot complete this quest" that person needs to kill baal. (btw i have a normal only sorc whose level 60 right now.. all from baal runs in normal. she cant goto nm yet)

Klined iv done it in all difficulties. works in all difficulties
yeh what u said.. sounds like u got it right.. make new char do all act 1 straight through "legit" style in order (i even used my imbue the moment i got it, before i took out andy) then get andy, then talk to npc.

[GODZ!]

k, andy bug thing i think works in all difficulties. ive been running andy alot in norm and she's proven quite usefull.

[geeber]

Hey Jerkazoid,
you said

[K-Lined]

goddamn.. it works, i might have been extremely lucky, i only did 10 or so runs in norm using this method and 3rd run got me a 5dex/1str/15ar/half freeze amu, 4th run a 2dex/25ar ring, 7th run a 29% nagel and the rest of the runs all crap.. but i'm kinda happy anyway

gotta try this more tomorrow after i level up this sorc a bit

[Jerkazoid]

aside from getting nothing but rares or LLD sets and uniques.. Baal has given me 1 tals ammy and 1 raven frost so far. and some rare jewelry that was worht holding onto.

as for actual LLD weapons that are "godly"?
nothing "godly" yet..

i could post some of the better things.. but it be alot of mediocre nice things.. nothing above and beyond. but thats what id expect..

eventually ill come across some randon rare wich will be just amazing, we all know it... it HAS to happen eventually.

i ofcourse find charms, rings/ammys, jewels worth keeping, all the time.

but Andy in nm has scored me GREAT lld items.. most of my +life sc's, the rare jewelry i got is from andy runs.. 2/xx/13 sc and alot of my LLD stuff.. but thats cause i only recently started doing this Baal thing consistantly

klined that ammy is pretty damn wonderfull imo

[geeber]

so which do you recommend mfing? norm baal or nm andy?