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[Exgreenberet]

I'm loving my lev 18 zealot and I allow up to lev 29 chars in my games. At that level I whip just about everybody who joins. The problem is cheap necros who spam the whole universe with wall then bone spear me.

How can I deal with a waller necro? Any ideas? Is there a way?

[Chewie]

Walk around the walls, shift + click and zeal the walls.

[Phyre]

I'm not really an expert at all on level 18 dueling but I don't think a necro at your level should really pose a threat. If you are taking on level 29 necros though I don't think you should expect to win, especially if they are using all the tools at their disposal such as Prison/Wall.

If you have a point in charge, you should be able to evade capture by walls if you keep moving.

[Exgreenberet]

chewie = when the entire battlefield is covered in walls you will be shift+clicking till the necro bones spears you to death.

Phyre = I do expect to beat level 29's damnit

[Phyre]

If he Bone Walls the entire screen, consider backing off if you can and making him come to you. Without Spirit's homing, he can't really accurately fight you from offscreen.

When he comes out of his Wall fortress you can attempt a kill before he can setup a new one. If he stays in his existing fort, just wait a little bit and the walls will fall down. Spamming Walls takes a significant amount of mana and sooner or later he'll run dry on mana unless he's potting like a madman. Even then, he'll go through the pots pretty quickly if you play defensively.

[Exgreenberet]

Aha...thanks Phyre. Good tip, I'll try that.

I know that bone prison isn't allowed in this forums tourney duels. Neither is "slow tgt" gear. How does everyong else handle low duelers who use these in normal duel games? Is slow gear universally considered a no no in dueling. I personally go on the attack agains anyone who uses slow gear in my games. I warn them first. Then if they keep using it I keep their gold the next time I kill them. If they continue to use it I jump them any time they step outside town.

Anyone else take action against "non-polite" duelers/equipment?

[Mr.Snuggles]

i keep bm gear /w me as well...so if they use slow i put on cleglaws gloves and after i hit them once i switched back to my deaths (because im to poor to have a full inv full of charms...>_<)....and yea i jump them as well...and tell flame them all around

[VoicesLLD]

dont forget the back door. coming from the cold plains usually always surprises the BM public kids.

[ATOMICMAN]

keep a set of javs on you weapon switch =)

[VoicesLLD]

[Phyre]

If they choose to be BM I generally will kill them GM if possible. If it is not, then I'll BM them as much as possible via any means necessary while still using my LLD. Bone Prison isn't really an issue for me though since I'm a kicker with DF. Once I get my remake up Decrep won't mean anything either. Just gotta remember to BF the golem.

[ATOMICMAN]

[Belarathon]

at first i was thinking, if the necro traps all over himself with bonewalls, he can;t escape either, so if you can have a level x charges of teleport staff on switch, you can teleport right up to him and he won;t be able to run away, and then i remembered the level requirement of the staff is level 24! bummer. (possibly lvl 25 but same thing) i would agree with phyre that the best strategy is to wait for him to run out of mana. hacked 70 mana charms arent available until level 30, so basically any necromancer under that level will run out of mana pretty quickly even with pots if he is spamming wall and spear just stand right in his range too, but run back and forth so he can thit you, cause if you stay in his range he is likely to spam a lot more cause he sees you and will try and hit you, if hwe cant see you he is likely to stand still and let his mana regen, plus if youre in range, then the second you see the bonewalls disapear you can namelock him with charge at the right time ebfore he can recast them.