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Level 9 Jabazon Skill Placement
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 7:51 pm    Post subject:  Level 9 Jabazon Skill Placement  

9 Jab
5 Dodge
6 Critical Strike

Does that look good? I was also thinking of incorporating Inner Sight into the build... Suggestions?

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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 8:11 pm    Post subject:  

if its soul pourpuse is vlld vs. vlld then i really dont know how usefull inner sight would be
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 8:18 pm    Post subject:  

Hm... I do know that Inner Sight gives me somewhat of an advantage with my lv18 Amazon when it's LLD vs. LLD... I'm just not sure about this...

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 12:37 am    Post subject:  

inner sight is actually really good, my friend dave uses it on his vlld jabber and it took away about 100 defence. when you only have around 150 defence, thats alot to take away. now im not sure on his skillstats, but ill check.
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 2:38 am    Post subject:  

suggest pumping inner sight instead of jab

1 jab (slvl 9s mana cost will kill you)
4 dodge (cant hit 5 unless u use sigons shield or team with BC barb)
9 inner sight (-260 target def)
6 critical

600 Base ar
pumpoed jab = 1000 ar total
def 300 on other lvl 9's = 76% hits

same 600 base ar
same 300 def - inner sight at lvl 9 (-260) =
40 def left =
92% chance to hit

(and if your opponent had 400 def lowering them to 140 with 600 ar is better then having 1000 ar vs 400 def.)

no more block locking opponents and the dmg still sucks, but u get three hits.. (much rejoicing) if u see globes, run,
its dirty, but sometimes u gotta do what u gotta do.

jab dmg boost is pathetic, and as u can see your lowsy 600 AR goes a long way when opponents have way little def Very Happy

ps try to get "Dun" with dmg on atleast 2 jewels u wear ....have 30-40% damage to mana in jewels/ammy (more like 60% if u can!) u NEED mana SOO bad

out of the lvl 9's the viable zon is the most expensive imo

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 8:20 pm    Post subject:  

all lvl9 vs lvl9

max jab 1000ar vs baba or pala with 1000def : 50%
max inner 600ar vs baba or pala with 740def : 44,8%

max jab 1000ar vs low def char with 400def : 71,4%
max inner 600ar vs low def char with 140def : 81%

max jab 1000ar vs low def char with 500def : 667% (sigon version)
max inner 600ar vs low def char with 240def : 71,4% (sigon version)

so it all depends vs who your gonna duell, if its pure for pk'ing low levels, go for inner sight, if its for duelling other pvp lvl9's, go max jab.

even if jerkazoid is correct about the small dmg boost, i prefere the dmg boost over 5% chance to hit more. thats like 1 hit in 20hits more, and most lvl9's are death after 20 hits Smile

just my 2cent's... ^^


my zon used 9 / 5 /6 like u posted so its fine Smile
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2004 1:49 am    Post subject:  

Solartje wrote:

max inner 600ar vs baba or pala with 740def : 44,8%


This is under the assumption that inner sight works off final def.
inner sight (fortunatly) works on the def BEFORE +def skills boost it..

example: A defiance paladin with 400 def on and +150% more def has 1000 def..
but when u lower it with -260 inner sight he gets final def of 360 Shocked

its very nice.... atleast thats what the Character screen is telling me.. theres always the possibility its lying.

360def vs 600ar = 62%

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2004 1:32 pm    Post subject:  

mmm ok enough reasons to test it on open Smile

btw im afraid alot of players wont get into battle before the inner sight is over. anyway thx for that explenation m8. Smile ill surely investigate this more as my ama is my main char.

btw i supose your one of the best lld on us. could u give me a detailed explenation on what u use. stats on jewels, charms, final stats. just to compare europe vs us, and see if we are noobs compared to you guys.

my gear: (some i still need to socket, waiting for ladder to reset , so i can use my ladder jewels)
armor:
jewel1: 3-12/1dex
jewel2: 3-13/-15req
jewel3: 2-13
jewel4: 1-14/-15req

helm1
3*14max

helm2
10max/30ar
7ed/9max/40ar/8dmg to mana
9max/30ar/9dmg to mana

weapon
10ias eth trowing spear, 1h dmg 11-36, with cold dmg.

shield
3*14max

amu
5str/5dex/8life/10mana/9dmg to mana

ring1
1max/76ar/2dex
ring2
1max/70ar/2str/half freeze

charms
3*15/12
3*14/12
2*14/10
2*14/11
2*14/8
2* 15/7 mana
2* 14/7 mana
2*51poison
4str/20mana
1dex/ar
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2004 1:23 pm    Post subject:  

in no way could i compare to that gear, i also dont have a jabber now.

ill list the basics to my 9 and 14 setup:

lvl 14 defence zealot (Normal)
100-300 dmg 5 hits, 6 frames (30ias), 2 seconds cold, 496 life, 740 def, 1200 ar, 0% fhr, 60 mana

lvl 9 Ts+kicker (Hell rushed)
300-500 kick dmg, (after 3charges) 7/2 speed, 489 life, 403 defence, 2000 kick ar, 30% fhr, 117 mana

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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2004 5:05 pm    Post subject:  

Jerkazoid wrote:

lvl 9 Ts+kicker (Hell rushed)
300-500 kick dmg, (after 3charges) 7/2 speed, 489 life, 403 defence, 2000 kick ar, 30% fhr, 117 mana


o.o your sin has the same life as my sin.

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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2004 5:22 pm    Post subject:  

Pity solar is on Europe Sad
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2004 11:35 pm    Post subject:  

maybe ill make one on us too Smile but for now i wanted to start lvl9 in europe.
and im sure lvl9 will be as popular as on us in a year or so. just needs some patience and some work, to get it starting.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject:  

I like low level duelers so I was just checkin this guide out and I saw you ask about inner sight. Inner sight is usful but .... I believe someone told me it's not allowed in duels Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:04 am    Post subject:  

it sure is. only a few skills arent allowed in duels (from amazons, only slow missiles isnt allowed)
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