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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject:  Throw barb question
Subject description: Lying character screen?
 

A couple days ago, I was typing up a long explanation of my level 18 throwbarb's dilemma. I clicked Submit, right at the same time that LLD101 crashed. So here goes again - hopefully it will go through this time:

I am in the process of remaking my throwbarb to be a hell-rushed build. Lame, I know, but I'm curious to see how he competes against the rest of East NL without using the norm rush as an excuse.

I had experimented before, and I found that on the single throw side, 20% ed jewels in the shield are much more effective than 15 max jewels. With ideal gear, you only have about 103% off-weapon enhanced damage on the single throw side. Also, throwing weapons (especially eth/rep war javelins) tend to have high damage, so it seems feasible to me that two 20% ED jewels would outperform a couple 15 maxers.

However, I have no way of determining if this is just another example of the lying character screen. Does anyone know if there's a way to calculate throwing damage? Or if you have any insight, please just let me know. I'm eager to socket my shield with a couple of 20% ed jewels, but I'd like to double check first.

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2-15 isnt possible on level 18 jewels. He must mean 2 x 15 maxers


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:19 am    Post subject:  

Throw damage on barb is display bugged. You need to calculate the actual damage.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject:  

Yeah, that's what I figured. Any suggestions on how to calculate the damage myself?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:43 am    Post subject:  

have you tried using ppr's damage calculator?

http://www.baronsbazaar.invisionzone.com/ppr/damage_calc.html

just remember to click the eth and throwing boxes

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:47 am    Post subject:  

Awesome, I forgot that PPR posted that amazing resource. Let me crunch the numbers and I'll see what comes out.

Edit: Unless you're using eth/rep war javs, 15 max jewels are superior to 20 ed jewels. And even if you are using eth/rep war javs, the 20 ed jewels are still slightly lower than 15 maxers. Guess I better socket my shield with 19's then.

On a side note, just how badly does the character screen lie? The damage listed from the calculator isn't even half of what's displayed on my thrower.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject:  

Roy wrote:
Awesome, I forgot that PPR posted that amazing resource. Let me crunch the numbers and I'll see what comes out.

Edit: Unless you're using eth/rep war javs, 15 max jewels are superior to 20 ed jewels. And even if you are using eth/rep war javs, the 20 ed jewels are still slightly lower than 15 maxers. Guess I better socket my shield with 19's then.

On a side note, just how badly does the character screen lie? The damage listed from the calculator isn't even half of what's displayed on my thrower.


its about that

people go nuts when they see HLD throwers with over 10k double throw, but half that and factor in 1/6th pvp reduction/%DR a level 30 charger does more damage.
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