LLD101

Belarathon · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:44 am Post subject:

classic dupes (weapons, belts, boots, jewelry) should be allowed to be traded as long as you label them as dupes.

70-15s, duped jewels, duped charms (if they ever come out, or are they already?) etc. should not be allowed to be traded because they actually do unbalance things.

You can't say that classic dupes will make it unbalanced, cause we duel with classic dupes every single day and it is 100% balanced. if anything, the chars that dont use classic dupes (spirit hdins, fb sorcs) are still the overly powerful characters, and without the classic dupes the other characters will stand even less of a chance
All of this I am saying for east nl, as I can;t know what it's like on other realms

Wank · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:29 am Post subject:

wfg-dude

Wank · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:42 am Post subject:

Well... can you look at it this way?

If wfg, a looong time member, was selling a jewel that he found, but was on dupe list, would you believe him? I would. But I definately would not believe someone with 10 or less posts. I have more reliability in some people than I do in others.

crawlingdeadman · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:43 am Post subject:

breakbeatz2 · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:52 am Post subject:

NL has it pretty good. The dupes don't unbalance things.

There are a few dupes people use

PTramples - Duped caster boots, but very few of them exist. I sold my last pair for 700 fg. If you spend 2 months finding a pair, and pay 700, you deserve the slight bonus you get over other casters.

Gale Thirst - Duped exe sword used by ww barbs. WW barbs need a lot of help to compete with the top of the line hammerdins and fire sorcs. Even with this sword, they are weaker than the best casters.

Bitter hold - 12 str 13 dex ring. Melee needs all the help it can get.
They are getting rare and expensive, so they aren't easy to find. Since your opponent can use one too, they aren't unbalances in melee vs. melee.

I could go on and on explaining why I think each dupe is fine, but you get the point.

crawlingdeadman · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:54 am Post subject:

thank you and i appologize again for my rudeness. my experience is with ladder as stated and if you dont use 20's you're three steps behind (or rather 5).

Belarathon · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:55 am Post subject:

14 dex on bhold Razz

and cold/psn res and 140ish ar

Meegz ? · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject:

and like what? lvl 13 requirement or something? i always was amazed at that part of it.

the gale thing i can understand the use of, its a damn exec sword so the req's are insane, therefore somewhat balancing the damage issue. bowa's are damn good w/o the classic rares (ask weaj) so i really just dislike them for lld to begin with. they take too much time, effort, and $$ for my liking. ive never seen those boots so idk bout those, heh...

also, b-holds are pretty much good for barbs only, since palas seem to want to go with angelics to counter barbs higher def.

crawlingdeadman · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:55 pm Post subject:

i guess my problem is when you hafta have a dupe to compete. i'm all for budget builds.

Belarathon · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject:

no build has to use a dupe to compete really.. but the fact that a well played, normal rushed, crappy geared hammerdin can at least 50-50 a hell rushed, 100% perf geared, well played WW barb kinda makes me lean towards allowing classic dupes

wfg-dude · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: