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Waramp · Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 4788 0.59 Silvarrr

well there arent many "good" chargers on us west that i can think of. there are a few attempted regen chargers with like 500 hp that just suck, and none of the high dmg insight chargers use desynch, they just run around in circles and run in and try to charge once in a while. so they arent really much of a challenge Confused

i'd love to duel a good charger from east, see how my fissure druid holds up

TacoBell · Joined: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 223 0.00 Silvarrr

You're in for a treat once ladder resets waramp. There are plenty of annoying bastard chargers on non ladder. And not the 500 life kind.

A charger and bowazon should be very hard for a fissure druid.

Waramp · Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 4788 0.59 Silvarrr

i dont plan on playing much when ladder resets, if at all. if i get inspired i might start over on ladder, but that remains to be seen.

Grim04 · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject:

Roy · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject:

I've yet to see a Fissure druid that can effectively damage my c/t if I use a Nokozan relic and Cleansing aura. And I'm not even a pure Regen build.

breakbeatz2 · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:29 am Post subject:

People are really telling me to walk vs. a bow zon?

Have you ever tried walking up to a bow zon and namelocking them? While they are shooting 8 fpa knockback arrows at you?

Not to mention that namelock fissure doesn't hit anyone with decent frw. You need to fissure in front of them in order to hit a moving target.

meitou · Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 1661 4.11 Silvarrr

I think they are all telling the truth based on their own dueling experience. My guess is there's no good bowzon, or charger at all on uswest.

Knockback is not necessary for a bowzon vs any char, let alone a fissure druid. The only time I like to put on knockback is when zon v zon and the other zon is using knockback.

But, I do suggest all LLD build to get 75% block. At least you won't lose horribly to some lousy pub chars.

krajee · Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 6579 9.68 Silvarrr

Waramp · Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 4788 0.59 Silvarrr

Belarathon · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject:

I agree with meitou completely.
If a fissure druid has never lost to a charger or bowzon on West, there are no great charger or bowzons on West.
A fissure druid has a small chance to beat a bowzon IF it has similar FRW, but it can never beat a good charger.

Waramp · Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 4788 0.59 Silvarrr

not even a druid with max block, 15% dr, 1700+ hp, good regen, etc?

Roy · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject:

Not a chance. 1700 life is... three charges tops? The druid will never match the paladin's regen, and either Hotspurs/Nokozan will eliminate the druid's offense.

Belarathon · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject:

1700 life is 2 charges tops and half the time 1 charge.
a fissure druid is probably the best non-cookie-cutter build unless you include psn jav zons, but it can't compete with any well skilled/geared sorc, bowzon, charger, wwbarb, trapper, psn jav zon, CS zon...
The only cookie cutter builds that i am not sure if it does well vs or not are kickers, necs (break says he beats every nec), tornado druid with no recast allowed
cant think of anymore right now!
sure, a godly fissure druid like waramp and breakbeatz can kill pubs, newbs, and the not-as-good lld's of any type or build almost. but when you put a godly fissure druid against a nicely geared character, it just cant win really

breakbeatz2 · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject:

It beats trappers every time for me (except that time you told me to run into 5 traps) and it beats blizz sorcs too.

Light sorcs seem possible, but if equal skill, the light sorc has the advantage I think.