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breakbeatz2 · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:31 am Post subject:

I got good vs. hammerdins now Very Happy

Chargers and bow zons are still impossible though.

2much · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:46 am Post subject:

I recommend getting a level 1 enchant charged weapon, so that you can look cooler when dueling.

Waramp · Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 4788 0.59 Silvarrr

do you have max block break? because i have no trouble with either of them (especially when i sub out a few 15 lifers for str charms and put my 15% soe on Razz

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breakbeatz2 · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:23 am Post subject:

5% block.

Seems like they would both be hard with max block too. You're running all of the time, which means 25% block while getting pummeled by arrows or namelock charged.

Wank · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:34 am Post subject:

IIRC its 33% block when running, and you dont need to run much when dueling a charger. The bower you should be able to namelock.

Weaj · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:38 am Post subject:

breakbeatz2 · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:58 am Post subject:

You don't need to run when dueling a charger?

Tank a charger and you lose for sure.

Also, you can't namelock a bowzon. They will ht you with so many knockback arrows before you get anywhere near their screen. Also, even if you could, they would out tank you.

Grim04 · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject:

2much · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject:

Max block isn't something you can debate. You need that 75% against chargers and bowas, otherwise you are through with money. imo, just start walking when you need to kill either

breakbeatz2 · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject:

I think both are unbeatable regardless of whether you have max block or not.

Even people who don't have fissure druids can just play out a duel vs. a bowzon in their head. You will never land 1 fissure and you will get pummeled by arrows while out of range. You will have 25% block when running, that won't save you.

Zeiris-lld · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject:

Walk to keep your max block. Depending on your life ratios/damage ratios, this should be a perfectly reasonable duel.

As for bowzons, yeah... Again, WALK to keep max block, and hope you have some FRW charms to get into fissure range. I haven't had too much experience with a fissure druid against them, but I recommend corner/house whoring to the MAX.

2much · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:48 pm Post subject:

I played against many bowas with my level 30 wind/fire hybrid and rarely lost even when they were hlds. I had the advantage of a hurricane once I got close, but imo it is a hell of a lot easier to namelock and fissure from a distance than it is to get close enough to use nado. Like I said above and like Zeiris said, WALK, and you retain that max block. I had 105% frw on my windy/fire, it was way more than enough to deal with bowas. The only charger I ever lost to with any sort of consistency was Partizan (You bastard!) and I swear that would not have happened if my block hadn't failed on the first shot all three times.

Meegz ? · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject:

Well...you fissure on a bowazon, and she either dodges it (and gets caught in your fissure) or she gets hit and runs out of it. Now she shoots arrows at you, and you block 3/4 of them (or, with your build 1/20 of them) then you do it again...If she goes off your screen, you summon some wolves, and run back up to her and start casting again. Or get a telestaff Very Happy

Vs a charger, you drop a fissure on yourself, so he gets hit when he charges you, then you start casting them around your map to try and stop his desynch, or namelock some if you can catch him resynched, and keep the one at your feet on all the time.

I don't see how that is impossible in either situation.

cheribum · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:32 pm Post subject:

i made one of these, only pure fissure. i found arm was awaste. pure fissure was alot more fun for me. got over 2k fire dmg with fissure. i think i put a few pnts in oak. mabe yjus t1 cant remember. used viper magi sojs, whitstans, or mabey i didnt use whitstans... spirit sword, lvl 27. +3 fissure lvl 18 2 soc druid helm, make that one runeword with it. i cant remember hwat its called.

he was fun. mabey ill regear and remake him. his name was FissurePrice Smile

Waramp · Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 4788 0.59 Silvarrr

over 2k dmg with fissure? thats not possible @ lvl 30. anyway, with max block, chargers and bowzons are both np. namelock the zon, dont move.
vs charger, use a few str charms to put on a 15% soe (if you're using a belt with str that is) and just keep fissures on yourself and around you. they have a 1/4 chance of hitting you (- what little defense you have) and i really doubt you'll get 1-hit ko'd. if they kill your sage, you know where they are. the only char i cant beat consistantly with my fissure druid (when +max fire res gear isnt used) is a good trapper.