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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:24 am Post subject:
WW Barb Help Please Subject description: I Need Help With WW Barb |
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Well i want to make a ww barb and im not real sure what to do. I have a helm i think would work fine heres a pic,
for the rest of gear i figured uped tiwtch honor naga ryme string? and i could figure rest i guess and for skills
+1 bash
+1 leap
+1 stun
+1 leap attack
+1 ww
+1 howl
+1 shout
+1 battle orders
+21 axe mastery
im sure i messed up badly so ANY help would be nice, please tell what you reccomend and why
If the pic dont work heres the stats on helm,
+2 combat skills
10% faster hit recovery
+1 iron skin
+50 life
cold resist + 29%
fire resist +27%
Level 5 stun [32/92 charges ]
-Thanks
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BloodRose
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:33 am Post subject:
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i was going to tell you to look at the stickies but the ww barb sticky seems pretty outdated
you cant place 21 points into axe mastery
also at lvl 30 you get 41 skill points you only used 29
eth rep ornate plate life/2or3os would be godly
rhyme on casters artisans tower shield of deflecting on other meles honor naga i guess is ok string is good
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:37 am Post subject:
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I wasnt counting gear points or skill quest and i dont take my llds outa norm
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:39 am Post subject:
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i suggest taking him out of norm, because you could really benifit from more points into battle orders.
if you're on a budget, i suggest getting your hands on a peace runeword mage plate, a high defence grim rhyme sheild, possible 2-3 ethreal ones for when you're opponent has cold dmg. also upgrade a swordback hold shield and maybe shael it or put a max dmg damage % to mana jewel. the open wounds on the shield proves to be a cheap alternative to useing a deflecting modded tower shield with max dmg jewels.
i would use string of ears when dueling any melee char, and hdins/bone necros because of the dr and mdr. when dueling casters use deaths sash for the cannot be frozen and use either another honor naga or a 6os naga with 2 shaels and some ed/max dmg jewels for casters (weapon in each hand, where blocking is not needed)
once you come across some more $$ i would spring for a 3os lifer lightweight armor with max dmg jewels with added indevidual resist jewels in the areas of cold/fire mostly, for a thid possible jewel maybe a max/resist all jewel, or a max dmg + lightning resist(poisen is not very important)
for gloves i would use single upgraded bloodfist gloves where you are a low strength build and using interchangeable belts for different situations(string or deaths)
for boots, use sanders for most situations for the +stats 40 frw and 100 ar
for melee chars with low defence and non teleporting sorcs/slow running necromancers/non desyncing or non pro hammerdins, use upgraded goblin toes for crushing blow.
rings and amulet i would use angelics set for barb vs barb, and other melee chars where you have 12% damage taken to mana from the amulet/rings, + possible damage taken to mana from a jewel in your swordback hold shield. you will want to have a high mana ring (90 mana being the most for lvl 30) with benifitial mods like attack rating, resistances, max dmg, replenish life, or life for caster duels when you find yourself running out of mana and not having it returned from taken physical dmg.
i hope all of this helped, ill try to post again with a better thought out skill/stat placement.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:41 am Post subject:
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do you want to bvb, bvc, or bva?
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:06 pm Post subject:
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Gheed wrote: | do you want to bvb, bvc, or bva? |
i assumed bva, people aquaint twitch + 30/20 shield to bvb, but thats kind of a one trick pony, so...
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject:
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you should learn how to take screenshots too, not just pictures of your monitor for starters, and 3 soc helm will probably help you more than that one. i learned that the hard way. for the rest of your gear, dual bletters are a cheap effective way to make a bvc. honor knouts are decent for bva. decent dmg, fast, 3 range. peace armor helps your dmg a lot, sanders for ar (goblins for melee perhaps)
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject:
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Jukie wrote: | Gheed wrote: | do you want to bvb, bvc, or bva? |
i assumed bva, people aquaint twitch + 30/20 shield to bvb, but thats kind of a one trick pony, so... |
bvb would be high def ornate (1200+ or 800+ eth glitched peace) + swordback or 400+ grim.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject:
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Gheed wrote: | Jukie wrote: | Gheed wrote: | do you want to bvb, bvc, or bva? |
i assumed bva, people aquaint twitch + 30/20 shield to bvb, but thats kind of a one trick pony, so... |
bvb would be high def ornate (1200+ or 800+ eth glitched peace) + swordback or 400+ grim. |
i was talking more about classic where dex didnt atribute to your block %, so the 20 icb + 20 added to the base of a grim most likely, or a swordback would be all you needed
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject:
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Jukie wrote: | i was talking more about classic where dex didnt atribute to your block %, so the 20 icb + 20 added to the base of a grim most likely, or a swordback would be all you needed |
In classic, there are two options for bvb: twitch + swordback and 800+ornate + 250+ grim.
waramp wrote: | for the rest of your gear, dual bletters are a cheap effective way to make a bvc. | Range 1 isn't that great for a bvc. If you really must use a bloodletter, pair it with some kind of range 3 weapon.
Another option if you wish to go with nagas is shopping one.
Savage (66-80%ed), merciless (81-100%ed), and knight's (51-65%ed, 81-100ar) are the prefixes to look for, while of alacrity (20%ias), of swiftness (30%ias), of slaughter (15-20max), of butchery (21-40max) are the suffixes to look for. Ideally, you would get a knight's of butchery and double shael it. If you are limited to only using 15ish max jewels, you'll get more damage out of a magical axe. If you find that you are lacking in attack rating, you can even shop a weird (301-450ar) naga of xxx.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:32 pm Post subject:
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whats this i hear about only the main-hand weapon's ias affecting ww speed? my friend was trying to tell me that as long as the main hand has enough ias for 4 frames, that you'll automatically get 2 frame? for example, a dual butcher ww barb would only need to shael the main-hand butcher and you'd get 2 frame?
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject:
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I would ditch the helm and get a helm with such skills as Weapon Mastery (whichever you decide to use), BO, WW and Increased Speed, just see what you can find, but those are the most useful mods imo.
You will also want to put 7 points in BO no matter what, it really is important to not only get the extra life, but also the duration, you don't want to have to constantly BO yourself, also you should put 1 point in Battle Command.
On the switch you will want to get 2 +2 Warcry weapons, or if you are on Ladder then Spirits are better.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject:
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I like Peace on my bva. What he currently uses...
2 Barb combat/visionary/2 sock/+1 iron skin/+2 increase speed (w/ 2 20 maxers)
Peace Archon
IK Gloves
15/15 SoE or IK belt, depending
Sanders
Atsod/Bramble scythe when dual wielding
Bramble scythe Exe
2 Sojs
Rare +2/19 str/19 dex/59 life
If thats any help, also, it would be benefitial to max BO imo.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject:
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waramp wrote: | whats this i hear about only the main-hand weapon's ias affecting ww speed? my friend was trying to tell me that as long as the main hand has enough ias for 4 frames, that you'll automatically get 2 frame? | both need to be at -34
waramp wrote: | for example, a dual butcher ww barb would only need to shael the main-hand butcher and you'd get 2 frame? | 3 frames
We all know what you mean.
Imp wrote: | Bramble scythe Exe
Rare +2/19 str/19 dex/59 life | For everyone that doesn't know, those are west dupes.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject:
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alright, i thought so. thanks gheed
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