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crawlingdeadman · Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject:

well i hell rushed to get extra stats/skills to try out one of gheed's suggestions. while looking at what to dump the extra couple points in i decided to try out cloak of shadows. is there a reason no one has mentioned it? i'm thinking of it in a similar vein to inner sight; cast before a duel. it doesnt last long but i was planing on casting with the shadow claws before a duel and quickly switching for longer duration and better effect. is it just a given that this is where you dump points and i'm just too newbish to KNOW?

Waramp · Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 4788 0.59 Silvarrr

i pumped cloak of shadows on my sin. i find it very useful vs high def chars, especially with the already high ar that kickers have

skarfacex42 · Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:50 pm Post subject:

str adds alot of dmg

crawlingdeadman · Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:10 am Post subject:

krajee · Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 6579 9.68 Silvarrr

Pumping strength for a level 18 build isn't too effective. You'll get about 10-10 extra pvp damage by pumping str.

AchtzehnOwnage · Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:21 pm Post subject:

the point into tiger strike is useless if you tell us charging does not work well

Barbask · Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject:

hey i dont really agree with the sigon helm, i found this 20s visionary helm for lvl 18 i was thinking of using this. if i did what would be the best choices to put in the sockets? i agree with almost everything else in this build

Jerkazoid · Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject:

Barbask · Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject:

im not that to concerned about the life, im making this kicker for 2v2 with my friend using a fissure druid i can tell you the build im making, should i make a new post or is it alright in here?

Jerkazoid · Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject:

i think its fine here. the dynamics will depend deeply on who your fighting, though we can try to account for avg's

im still trying to work small details out, i have a habit of posting to soon bc i must write out thoughts before i can organize it. then i post early etc..

[edit ok plans changed]

let equate from pure AR/mana stand point as thats the differences

Shelm144 + Sboot50 + 150 amyth *445% = 1874ar +30mana

vs

boot50 (+1sig item belt or gloves) +150 amyth + 38mana spaph *463% =
1126 ar +38mana

for pure AR with the same mana a 3os mask =
2amythysts(300) +1psaphire(38mana) and the sig boots+1 for 50 to =
300 + 50 +38mana *445% = 1907 +38 mana

there now that i have the numbers right we have that info

Barbask · Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject:

Helm:working on that
ammy:angelic
armour:twitch
weapon:crushflange
sheild:swordback
boots:21mana/8%mana regen/4%increased mana/13 cold res(crafted greaves)
rings:x2 angelic
belt:deaths
gloves:bloodfists
my invo:x37 15life scs some with str mods a few with 3-5 mana
its hell rushed with stats/lifepotion/anya/skills quests

thats y i dont think using sigon helm is worth it because im not using the others pieces i dont get the ar bonus, im still looking for the 1shadow claws for switch

Jerkazoid · Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject:

i assume your going to do 0 ts and pump bos to 6 with +gear?
are u paired random 2 on 2 or u have a set role?

i think the best flexibility with what u are probably doing is a 3os mask* unless the vis helm i a sweet rare circ.

and imo if squeezing every point into life/mana really isnt a major concern then i suggest 3 Pskulls with slight PK tactic of avoidance, (if your fighting two low dmg builds then use duskdeep)

*now for some comparisons*
1)
with angleics and dex your at about 700 base ar already (= about 3815 ar anyway)

a) two Pamythyst with the 18% is going to make 1000ar +463% = 5630
b)three Pamyth 3os mask 1150 +445% = 6267

c) u can do Two amythyst in the mask and have 1os for Pskull
5450 ar is plenty +added regen
... etc
d) 4633 final ar 2Pskull
e) 3815 final ar for 3Pskulls

2)
comparison of sc and gems
1 socket is 150 ar OR 38 mana. its almost 4:1 ar/mana on the P gems.

on sc's its 12ar vs 7mana preffix, closer to 2:1

conclusion; use double affix sc's to maximize +mana/life
and if you want to boost AR add it with Perf Amythyts on armor

Barbask · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject:

its me and my friend dueling together against random opponents, he's using fissure druid, and im well using a kicker. i dont think ill need the 4-6k ar with the amythest variations, because what lvl 18 is going to have THAT much defence to make a difference with 3.4k or watever, the only build i can say is a concen barb which then since its a 2v2, my friend can easily beat a concen barb since he should have the low res from sacrificing it for the def. thats my opinion i guess the 3 pskulls would make a a great tactic incase of a epic battle, but doesnt the str from the amythest increase my dmg by quite a bit?

Barbask · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject:

also with the extre skills left i was thinking of using blade fury is it? thats 4 skill points to get 1 point into it which is all youll need, but i dont know if the crushflange is strong enough, i could get a eth one if the durability doesnt go down when kicking ( doesnt seem like it would but i dont know), also id like to know if BoS increases kicking speed?