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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:17 am    Post subject:  Min + Max  

hmm
What would happen if u got a weapon
And put a buncha min dmg jewels in it so that the min was higher than the max ;P
Would the max become the min? or what...

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:32 am    Post subject:  

after ALL dmg is added up,, and min is > than max
max would = min +1


10-14 blade talon (3 sock)
+42 max dmg (all +14 maxs)
10-56 dmg avg = 33

10-14 talon (3 sock)
+24 min (all +8 mins)
34-35 dmg avg = 34.5

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:58 am    Post subject:  

So min is better than max???
Ima start getting 4-9 dmg jewels ;/

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:11 pm    Post subject:  

over all youll have a higher average, but lower dmg.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:38 pm    Post subject:  

ExPiReD wrote:
So min is better than max???
Ima start getting 4-9 dmg jewels ;/


its not that simple when u start to use it

statistically 1 min is the same as 1 max
but when u test it in limited number of samples +1min comes out better then +1 max

however in order to gain the statistical AVG benefit u must invest heavily into ONLY min dmg.. not a combination.


imo the comparison from lowest to highest is like this


+4 min jewel (low even when used in large quantities)
+9 max jewel (avg)
+5 min jewel (above avg when used in large quantities)
+14max jewel (high)
4-9 jewel (extremly high)
+8 min jewel (GODLY when used in large quanities)



assuming 10-14 talons with 11 jewels in gear
+4min 10-14 +44min 54-55 avg 54.5
+9max 10-14 +99max 10-113 avg 61.5
+5min 10-14 +55min 65-66 avg 65.5
+14max 10-14 +154max 10-168 avg 89
+8 min 10-14 +88min 98-99 avg 98.5



understand that this is from a SC perspective. when hardcore dueling u need to be able to upste your opponent with insane MAX dmg,, surprising them with an instant death so they cant just drink a rejuv.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:00 pm    Post subject:  

Can u give me a list of all the lld jewels there are???
They dont have jewel lvl's on arreats Sad

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:09 pm    Post subject:  

Jerkazoid wrote:
understand that this is from a SC perspective. when hardcore dueling u need to be able to upste your opponent with insane MAX dmg,, surprising them with an instant death so they cant just drink a rejuv.


yes but in HC 99% of dulers have MapHack so they have chicken life that makes them auto log at a certain life so most of them log before they die, thats what has happened 90% of the time ive duled in HC. its cheap u risk yur items and they use hacks to cheat just lame. :\
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:55 pm    Post subject:  

ExPiReD wrote:
Can u give me a list of all the lld jewels there are???
They dont have jewel lvl's on arreats Sad


well using the affix calc:
http://www.diabloii.nu/affixcalc/calculate.asp?version=110&type=jewl&quality=mag&qlvl=1&inputilvl=45&maglvl=0&lvl=&plvl=&ilvl=&clvl=1

thats the link to see every affix that can be on a jewel that drops from a monster at lvl 45

as u can see the alvl = 45 as well

"Realgar" is an alvl 45 mod.. Argent is lvl 44....
although i dont know the req lvls i would guess its 75% of 45 wich is 33 is Realgar lvl 33 req? is so its a coicidance.. but Most mods are req lvl 75% of alvl

u can see all the different dmg mods possible, and there variations. as well as their Alvl.. but to figure thereq lvl of each affix, you could assume its 75%lvl

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:58 pm    Post subject:  

If u click on the name like "Carmine" it shows u lvl and stuff...
For any1 else who looks at link.

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