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TacoBell
Joined: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 223  0.00 Silvarrr |
And if not you, there are many other in this very thread who are. In fact, some of them admit they don't like religions because of how they constantly preach, and then go on to preach in the same post. |
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breakbeatz2
Victim of the BAN BLUDGEON Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 4095 0.00 Silvarrr |
I wonder if Goky and rjg are thinking man I can't wait until Break dies and has to spend eternity in hell! That's sure gonna teach him a lesson." |
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Wank
 Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 3329 BNet Acct/Realm: Imp StormsRaider 57.98 Silvarrr |
Didn't really read most of the posts in this thread, but this is what I know... I've been on both sides of the fence, believing and non believing. You cant possibly tell me that God doesnt exist, you've never expeirienced what I have. After actually following the religion, it is impossible to say God doesn't exist, or you didnt really follow it. Also, statements like "if you believe in blahblah then you are an idiot" are baits to flame, not sure if anybody else noticed this. I'm not going to cut down non believers, but I'd appreciate it if you would return the favor. I also like how its constantly said that the believers are pushing this upon you, I've seen no "you must believe in christianity" threads, but this is the second anti religion thread I've seen. Seems like you attack it so much because your afraid that what you believe is actually wrong. _________________ 
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breakbeatz2
Victim of the BAN BLUDGEON Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 4095 0.00 Silvarrr |
Please elaborate |
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Roy
My level 18s > yours  Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 5750 223.30 Silvarrr |
I'm amazed you think we'd care so much. Oh gosh, another stranger on an internet forum insulting religion. What a red-letter day.
FYI - My beliefs are not false, because that would imply that they could be proven one way or another. Simple logic pwn. As I've stated before, "faith" falls outside the realm of what can be proven or disproven. Although, if you're going to start preaching about the virtues of "fact," you shouldn't be so careless as to make fallacious assumptions. _________________
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Wank
Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 3329 BNet Acct/Realm: Imp StormsRaider 57.98 Silvarrr |
How would you like me to explain? You read my whole post and came out with two words? Please elaborate. _________________
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breakbeatz2
Victim of the BAN BLUDGEON Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 4095 0.00 Silvarrr |
I would laugh at someone who claimed leprachauns live under the surface of the Earth even though it can't be disproven.
You don't need to be 100% sure to realize that scenario is much more likely. I'm sure if your parents were Muslim you would be sure that Islam was the way to go. If your parents were Buddhist, you would be a devout Buddhist as well. You have blind faith in what Mommy and Daddy taught you. Way to go. |
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Roy
My level 18s > yours Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 5750 223.30 Silvarrr |
Spoken exactly like someone who gets all his beliefs spoonfed to him. You're Jewish because your parents are Jewish, ergo everyone else must be the same way. Believe it or not, not everyone is as simple-minded as you. Once again you make several laughably false assumptions, about both myself and my parents, presumably because you never learned to think for yourself and so you project your insecurity onto others. Don't worry - it's a normal defense mechanism. _________________
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breakbeatz2
Victim of the BAN BLUDGEON Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 4095 0.00 Silvarrr |
No, I'm right. |
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SoaringSquirrel
 Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 1549 0.00 Silvarrr |
Er, Jerk, I still can't tell if you're just doing some damn good satire, or being serious. Suffice it to say that I sure hope that it's just satire though. 
Not quite. You can disprove that you're sitting on a blue whale as you're typing this by simply looking at it. God, on the other hand, is generally defined in such a way to be undetectable, and thus unfalsifiable (at times even undefinable and ineffable), so it's not a simple matter of looking under your sofa, finding nothing, and proclaiming its nonexistence. I personally hold the principle of parsimony in utmost value (courtesy of Ockham) though I can't speak for others, which, in conjunction with empiricism, leaves me at the lonely default position of nontheism. Conversely,
It is a bit of a stretch to expect that anything can be proven completely conclusively, as you here noted. After all, throughout the history of science and philosophy, our certainty in our senses have been critically wounded by all the slings and arrows of Pyrrhonism, Cartesian skepticism, solipsism, quantum mechanics, etc. We realize that, even in our most confident measurements and assessments of the world, they are but approximations, and the only certainty is in the abstract conceptualizations of logic and mathematics. Indeed, it is upon this skepticism that science is based -- that we offer the best available explanation for some phenomena, without asserting the absolute and ultimate validity of it. As remarkable an instrument science is, we must recall that its purpose is descriptive, and not prescriptive -- to claim the latter would to commit scientific hubris, uniting religion and science under the same principle of dogma. That being said, yeah, it's by far more plausible that the Big Bang occurred, abiogenesis led to life, and evolution led to the advent of humans than that Young Earth Creationism balderdash.
Oh, no. Religion is real, my friend, I think we all realize this -- it's God that is fake. 
Well spoken, and elaborate to boot! You should look into law school. 
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breakbeatz2
Victim of the BAN BLUDGEON Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 4095 0.00 Silvarrr |
No, you actually can't completely refute that possibility. Science disproves Jesus's ability to walk on water just as it disproves my ability to magically teleport to the back of a blue whale with my laptop in order to write this post. It's just not disproven with 100% certainty.
I can invent ridiculous parameters in order to make all my arguments impossible to disprove as well. |
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SoaringSquirrel
Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 1549 0.00 Silvarrr |
Right-o. Not 100% certainty, I grant you this. However, unless you were being observed while you were posting, science did NOT disprove that you teleported onto a blue whale to post, just as it cannot disprove Jesus' walking on the water. You're using induction based upon other instances to assert the probability of it occurring, but inductive reasoning can't "prove" the truth of the argument, only that it's a pretty good one.
That, you can. For the sake of staying away from questions of solipsism and consciousness, I'll just say that this is why I think parsimony is so necessary. Flew points out that any proposition which does not have any observable or testable qualifications is meaningless, for it "dies the death of a thousand qualifications". Which is why I think we should Ockham's razor any such proposition for all intents and purposes concerning public domain. _________________
Props to Mark Owens for the sig. My firstborn baby squirrel will be sacrificed in your honor. Last edited by SoaringSquirrel on Fri May 04, 2007 1:28 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Roy
My level 18s > yours Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 5750 223.30 Silvarrr |
Sure you are. You're Jewish because your parents are Jewish, ergo everyone's religious beliefs must be the same as those of their parents. That's called "Appeal to common practice." Classic logical fallacy. So far your only arguments against religion are "You can't prove God exists" and "My parents are Jewish too." Gee, you sure changed my mind! _________________
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zarc
Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 865 BNet Acct/Realm: USEast NonLadder *fyarbeast USEast Ladder *fyarbeast1 -2.48 Silvarrr |
Since you all seem to have taken a logic course or two...how about i mention this...Appeal to authority??? _________________  |
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SoaringSquirrel
Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 1549 0.00 Silvarrr |
I think you might want to unpack that a bit more, since it's applicable in many, many ways to this discussion. _________________
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