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Ultimate Unkillable ES sorc?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject:  Ultimate Unkillable ES sorc?  

i've been pondering this for a long time...

so if you make a max ES/telek sorc, how much dr/mdr would you have to get to make it literally *unkillable*? presuming this is impossible, what is the maximum damage mitigation possible, and how much would that leave you taking from a well-geared [insert character class/build here]?

To my understanding, one of the obscure unique armors has like 50(m?)dr, if you get a jewelers coronet of life everlasting, shocking amulet of life everlasting, jewelers monarch of life everlasting, all mal'd/sol'd, etc.

I haven't added this up, but it seems like a large large amount, with more possible

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject:  

Poison rapes Es sorces since they lack resists.

My bowa barb could killa 95 es tank sorc in about two arrows.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject:  

fair enough.

how about a more refined question of vs smiters/ww barbs/wind druids/hammerdins? (some of the more annoying top end pvp builds)

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject:  

I had a 95 es tele zealot sorc who did very well, smiters still beat her just for the fact that they never missed and my mana go drained.

However vs any other build she did quite well, even vs hammerdins if they got lazy and didnt tele quick enough. So ya they are very viable.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject:  

Well you have to think, more than half of the es sorcs are garbage anyways. Asside from the es/lits, I believe I've only found one good es/fb. A good es sorc would be prepared for psn chars.

And sorcs arent the best anti good hld chars, since it is rather simple to stack n sorb em'.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject:  

My MLD es sorc does surprisingly well against MLDs. I have no resistances however (I've yet to make my sanc), but I still do pretty good.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject:  

I've always wondered if there is a way to "mana burn" in pvp the way the monsters can do it to us in a game.

Uppd serpent lords staff ftw???

Anyway, it would be cool to figure a way to rape es sorcs mana away with one attack then switch back and norm attack em to death Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:10 am    Post subject:  

the skill Hunger actually steals mana
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject:  

At what rate tho? Monsters in the game can hit you one time and deplete your entire orb! Granted most of us don't put anything into mana but still!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject:  

depends on the damage of the druid of course. read the skill Wink you could load up on mana steal gear i would think to make it extra funny
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject:  

Rhamax wrote:
I had a 95 es tele zealot sorc who did very well, smiters still beat her just for the fact that they never missed and my mana go drained.

However vs any other build she did quite well, even vs hammerdins if they got lazy and didnt tele quick enough. So ya they are very viable.


smiters sure do suck cock alright =/ cheaters...

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject:  

if i remeber correctly i sorta broke down an evaluation of approx 800 pvp (i think?) or maybe 800 listed dmg....
could be mitigated by a lvl 33 sorc and stay potentially unkillable with regen sources and maxed tele syngery.

i called it "ghandi sorc" and i always liked that name lol.

the problem was ES took dmg First, (after the 17% pvp chop ofcourse)
then the dr% then the DR...
so the brute force was on the shield going to mana,,, no mana ment no 'sorb.

just fyi,, the dates are amusing, the ideas still come up.

feb 10th 2004.
http://www.lld101.com/viewtopic.php?t=12&search_id=925424742

aug 8th 2004 , elaborated on it, (technically detailed)
http://www.lld101.com/viewtopic.php?search_id=925424742&t=2298

ah here is a small estimate, though i dont have any of the specifcs anymore to tell you how i arrived at that exactly.

"a 75% eshield 6 sols and 20dr iron pelt will negate about 1400 dmg"

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:47 am    Post subject:  

to bad rabies eats right through that ^^
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:48 am    Post subject:  

with a 95 es sorc you can use a 3 sols in your gear + a string of ears and pretty much not die at 1 life if you have the mana to absorb the 95% of the damage.

or, you can go with a gerkes shield, and theres like 16 mdr 18 dr right there.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject:  

http://www.pvpwest.com/pvpwest.php?ID=zhsorc

^ a guide from someone who is quite well known around here.

its about es sorcys...which i thought was relevant.

I personally dont think you can make a character unkillable. You can make it very hard...but you WILL get killed (quite often).
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