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Saytun
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:00 am Post subject:
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Ive been looking into this skill but I not sure on the information ive found just need some clarification im understanding it correctly.
Ive found information saying thorns receives a 1/10 penalty for pvp, level 20 thorns returns 1010% damage. So from the 1/10 penalty am i to assume this would become 101% damage returned? Its obviously not returning this much but I dont know what calculation im missing. Does that 1/10 penalty also receive the 1/4 pvp penalty when the damage is transfered to the attacker?
Im confused lol
Saytun
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Death-Strider
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:19 am Post subject:
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If I'm thinking right , Throns has the 1/10 pvp penelty then the 1/6 melee penelty is added in? so 1010/10= 101/6 = 16.8 I could be wrong but that makes the most sense I guess?
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Saytun
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:25 am Post subject:
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Yeah thats the bit that none of the explanations ive found has added in. They just mention the 1/10th and thats all
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slayerbaal
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:13 am Post subject:
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i was askin a bout this in the rules section so this clarifys y thorns doesnt work
http://wirsz.phpwebhosting.com/LLDBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3941
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Saytun
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:16 am Post subject:
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it just says its been nerfed, doesnt say how its now calculated tho
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Pansy
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:25 am Post subject:
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It goes something like this:
Total Thorns damage in PvP = PvP damage taken from player * (.01 * (Listed % damage return / 10)) * .17 (Standard PvP penalty)
The damage output is physical damage, so things like straight or % -Damage taken will lower it further. This also applies to IM.
So here's an example:
Say we have our paladin with 1000% thorns, getting hit by a 1,200 damage attack. Plugging those numbers in the formula:
200 * (.01 * (1000 / 10)) * .17
So first we go through the PvP penalty on damage returned skill %
1000 / 10 = 100, revised formula: 200 * (.01 * 100) * .17
Then we convert the percent to a decimal value so we can multiply it straight to the damage that our paladin actually took:
.01 * 100 = 1, revised formula: 200 * 1 * .17
Then finish out the rest of the math:
200 * .17 = 34 damage returned.
It really doesn't do much damage now, unless you can somehow get a very high level skill and you get hit hard.
Last edited by Pansy on Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:47 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Saytun
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:31 am Post subject:
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Thanks Pansy, just what I needed, something specific to work on other than just that its been nerfed and doesnt work well now
At least I have an understanding now why it doesnt work well now I have all the information
Thanks again
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