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meitou
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject:
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Yeah, I am trying to spoon feed here, because people (including myself) usually just waste the imbue quests. Pity.
And, imbue ethereal items only. Don't "try" to be a smartass and do "something new". For instance, only idiots would imbue sorc orb/druid pelt and hope for merely a rare.
Best imbue character lvl
For lvl 9
throwing spear-------- 8
For lvl 18
war javaline---------- 36
throwing spear -------35
For lvl 30
harpoon-------------- 55
ornate armor-------- 64-65
grim helm------------61-70
grim shield-----------60
If your char is over these lvls, imbue Sorc Orbs. Because a higher lvl char will have better chance to get 3 +3 skills on classic specific items.
They are the only items worth imbuing. They all only need 2 mods to be good (ed% and self repair), 3+ mods would be really cool. Even with 1 mod only (ed%), they can be a temparary and last a while. The only exception here is the grim shield which need 3 mods to be good (ed%, deflecting, self repair).
Other items, such as lvl 18 ancient armor, lvl 9 blade talon, lvl 30 grim scythe, cutlass, naga, all need at least 3-4 mods to be good, which is close to impossible for imbue. And there are alternatives easily to be obtained (4s 500+ def ancient with 60max, 3s talon with 3 14max jewels, etc.)
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James
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject:
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this confuses me a little. why the discrepancy in clvl for tspear and war javs? why would 30 be more ideal for level 18 tspears than 31 when 31 is best for level 18 war javs? wouldn't the same mods be available for either weapon at either clvl? especially since they're in the exact same weapon class, just different qualities. are the mods available to exceptional items that aren't available to normal items?
i'm just kinda confused on how there could be a level discrepancy for items as similar as these.
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crawlingdeadman
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject:
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would blade talons be best imbued at 8 as well?
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eAr_gOd
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject:
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crawlingdeadman wrote: | would blade talons be best imbued at 8 as well? |
for vlld (lvl 9 req), they are best imbued at lvl 18
_________________ Rakanishus_Wife: Lvl 18 lightning bolt / CS Amazon
Psychedelic_Ham: Lvl 18 blade fury / psyhammer hybrid Assassin
Bluemoon: Lvl 15 defiance zealot
Necropantser: Lvl 9 Summoner/Sacrifice hybrid necro
ObiWanShinobi: Lvl 9 TS assassin
Always looking for gear upgrades, particularly 15life Scs with lightning damage or mana, and defiance/zeal war sceptors.
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Visual Tactics
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject:
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eAr_gOd wrote: | crawlingdeadman wrote: | would blade talons be best imbued at 8 as well? |
for vlld (lvl 9 req), they are best imbued at lvl 18 |
that's only if you want a chance to get these mods which you can't imbuing witha level 8 char.
silver mod (60-80ar)
fine mod (20-30%ed)
of measure (4min)
BUT imbuing at level 18 means you could get random lvl req of 9 to 14. So, its your choice.
throwing spear for lvl 9--------- level 8 to 24
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krajee
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject:
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Visual Tactics wrote: | BUT imbuing at level 18 means you could get random lvl req of 9 to 14. So, its your choice. | For blade talons? Which affixes could push the level req up?
BoD wrote: | why the discrepancy in clvl for tspear and war javs? |
qlvl
meitou, I have always done warjavs at 36 for level 18. That's when you can get 20ias and 16-20max. I do ornates at 64 as well. I've never done tspears for 18 or harps, but you look like you know what you're doing.
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eAr_gOd
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:19 am Post subject:
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Visual Tactics wrote: | eAr_gOd wrote: | crawlingdeadman wrote: | would blade talons be best imbued at 8 as well? |
for vlld (lvl 9 req), they are best imbued at lvl 18 |
that's only if you want a chance to get these mods which you can't imbuing witha level 8 char.
silver mod (60-80ar)
fine mod (20-30%ed)
of measure (4min)
BUT imbuing at level 18 means you could get random lvl req of 9 to 14. So, its your choice.
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There is no modifier that can push the blade talon lvl requirement over lvl 9 when imbued by a lvl 18 character. if you imbue at lvl 18, itll be lvl 9 requirement at most no matter what (if your using the affix calc make sure you don't confuse the alvl of the mod with the lvl requirement, which they do not list there, of the mod)
_________________ Rakanishus_Wife: Lvl 18 lightning bolt / CS Amazon
Psychedelic_Ham: Lvl 18 blade fury / psyhammer hybrid Assassin
Bluemoon: Lvl 15 defiance zealot
Necropantser: Lvl 9 Summoner/Sacrifice hybrid necro
ObiWanShinobi: Lvl 9 TS assassin
Always looking for gear upgrades, particularly 15life Scs with lightning damage or mana, and defiance/zeal war sceptors.
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Kody
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:09 am Post subject:
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dang all those harpoons wasted imbueing on a lvl 30 XD never really looked into the imbue lvls
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meitou
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:19 am Post subject:
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Gheed wrote: |
meitou, I have always done warjavs at 36 for level 18. That's when you can get 20ias and 16-20max. I do ornates at 64 as well. I've never done tspears for 18 or harps, but you look like you know what you're doing. |
You might be right, I probably didn't look for those mods.
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Visual Tactics
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:25 am Post subject:
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Quote: | There is no modifier that can push the blade talon lvl requirement over lvl 9 when imbued by a lvl 18 character. if you imbue at lvl 18, itll be lvl 9 requirement at most no matter what (if your using the affix calc make sure you don't confuse the alvl of the mod with the lvl requirement, which they do not list there, of the mod)
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woops, thansk for clarifying. I probably did get confused
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crawlingdeadman
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject:
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maybe this should be apended to the eth imbue list making one good thread to link to for questions on it...unless ofc it's been done.
Edit: just did a quickie search on "the stickie" and there doesnt appear to be a catch-all imbue thread.
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krajee
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject:
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crawlingdeadman wrote: | Edit: just did a quickie search on "the stickie" and there doesnt appear to be a catch-all imbue thread. |
What are you talking about? It's right here...
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Atlas(EF)
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:24 am Post subject:
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ok so I am imbunein tspears for my levl 9.... imbuning them with a levl 8 will not get any ed/ar/damage mods? or what... little confused.... should I imbune with a levl 8 or with a levl 18.... I mean if I do it with levl 8 char I can still get the damage mods and repair?
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eAr_gOd
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:51 am Post subject:
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Atlas(EF) wrote: | ok so I am imbunein tspears for my levl 9.... imbuning them with a levl 8 will not get any ed/ar/damage mods? or what... little confused.... should I imbune with a levl 8 or with a levl 18.... I mean if I do it with levl 8 char I can still get the damage mods and repair? |
its item dependent
You'll want to be lvl 8 for Tspears. You can be higher actually, ie 8-12ish to imbue cuz tspears have a minimum lvl that I forget, and imbuing with anything lower than that lvl will default to that imbue lvl anyway. I don't feel like explaining it further, theres plenty of stickies on how this works and I couldn't do a good job anyway. But yes you can get repair mods and IAS at lvl 8.
Bottom line without too much explanation:
Imbue Tspears at lvl 8
Imbue blade talons at lvl 18
_________________ Rakanishus_Wife: Lvl 18 lightning bolt / CS Amazon
Psychedelic_Ham: Lvl 18 blade fury / psyhammer hybrid Assassin
Bluemoon: Lvl 15 defiance zealot
Necropantser: Lvl 9 Summoner/Sacrifice hybrid necro
ObiWanShinobi: Lvl 9 TS assassin
Always looking for gear upgrades, particularly 15life Scs with lightning damage or mana, and defiance/zeal war sceptors.
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crawlingdeadman
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:09 am Post subject:
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Gheed wrote: | crawlingdeadman wrote: | Edit: just did a quickie search on "the stickie" and there doesnt appear to be a catch-all imbue thread. |
What are you talking about? It's right here... |
when it's working... and i was talking about for the idiots like me who can "play" with the calc for days and still not understand.
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