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JesterofHell
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:59 pm Post subject:
Somewhat of an FOHer guide by Jester, hope it helps Voices |
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Yeah, i have made a foher, and they do pretty well, unless someone
has alot of stacked lit res.
My skill placement looks something like this;
For FOH
Sacrifice 1
Zeal 1
Vengeance 1
Conversion 1
Holy Bolt 1
Blessed Hammer 1
FOH 1(Your main skill, can only put one point here)
For Holy Shield
Smite 1
Charge 1 (can be useful for evading and such, but sucks that mana orb
dry if you dont have alot of mana)
Holy Shield 6 ( i put 6 here, but a maximum of 7 can be placed here)
For Conviction and Holy Shock
Might 1
Holy Fire 1
Holy Freeze 1
Holy Shock 7 (7 here because it boosts FOHs lit dmg)
Thorns 1
Sanctuary 1
Conviction 1 (this will be your main aura, due to the fact that it
cuts enemies resists based on a % which depends on the skill lvl, basically
makes FOH more effective by cutting down enemy resists)
For Vigor
Prayer 1
Cleansing 1
Defiance 1 (this gives a 15%def boost to holy shield, so if holy
shield is at lvl 7 and you want more def when using it, this is a
nice skill to put extra pts into for extra def, but if holy shield is
less than lvl 7, get it to 7 first before boosting this)
Vigor 1 ( i used some extra pts to get vigor, which has helped in
some situations, but you may not want to use depending on your play
style, im usually using conviction, and i only use this vs really
fast melee that try and chase me down)
Salvation 1 (i put a point here for vs other caster duels, but ive
found switching to a good res shield instead of the normal + skills
shield is more effective, because you can still use the conviction
aura while you duel)
Well thats the skill placement i used, switch points around to fit
your build as you see fit.
Stat placement:
Strength: Enough to use equipment of your choice(dont forget to include bonused from items youll be using, ie: if your using sanders you can save on 5 stat pts,
Dexterity:Enough for 75% block rate
Vitality:Put the rest in here
Energy:Base (you should have enough mana from mana charms and 90% extra mana from frosties and 2 sojs)
As for items,
Since FOH has a cooldown rate, fcr isnt important to the FoHer, what
youll want to do is get as many + skills gear so as to boost
FOH and conviction, along with other skills.
Weap:
Either a Magical or Rare scepter with
+2(combat skills) or +1 pally skills
+3 FOH
possibly another +1-3 mod(maybe +3 conviction too, ooo thatd be
sweet, or +3 holy shield or something)
Some life, mana,etc
Helm: Either Peasant Crown with socktd w/ a shael, pruby,
psaph(whatever you choose) or a good circlet with +2 combat skills
and other good mods, ie: life, mana, res, frw..
Amulet: Telling of beads (for the +1 skills and res), or a magical or
rare ammy with +2 combat skills and other good mods.
Armor: Skin of vipermagi(for the res and 1+skills) or Spirit
Shroud(for cbf, not really needed if you get your cbf from say deaths
or rhyme)
Gloves: Frostburns (youll need the mana)
Boots: Tearhaunches(for an extra res and to boost vigor if you use)
sanders, ck boots
Belt: Deaths sash(for the cbf), Nightsmoke (for 50%dmg goes to mana
and res)
Rings: 2 sojs (+1 skills and +25% mana on each one, use nothing else)
Shield: Steelclash(for the +1 skill) Rhyme (for cbf if you dont get
it elsewhere) or a nice rare or magical shield with +2 combat skills or +1 pally skills and other nice mods, ie increased chance of blocking and faster block rate(fbr isnt important, holy shield puts you at fastest block, but icb helps saves on stat pts, more into vit:D) ,fhr, res, dmg to mana...
This is what my pally HandsofGawd wore before i stripped him for
another caster(sigh, not enough gear and charms yet to have two at a
time)
Helm: Peasant Crown W/ shael
Armor: Spirit Shroud w/ pruby
Weap: +3 foh scepter (couldnt find better... if i did... watch out!)
Ammy: Telling of beads (couldnt find any better)
Gloves: Frostburns
Rings: 2 sojs
Boots: Tearhaunches (shouldnt have boosted str for this, should have
use sanders or something, more res does help though, as does more
pts into vigor when i use it)
Belt: Nightsmoke (gotta love 50% dmg taken goes to mana and res, who
doesnt love it?)
Shield: +2 combat skills crown shield with 17 fhr and 27 fire, lit,
psn res and like 35 cld res i think.(would have ithed it if i had the extra socket quest =/) ( also, its good to have a 4
sock pally shield with inherent all res, then socket it with 4
pdiamonds for all around duels, 4 ptopazes for other fohers, 4 psaphs
for blizz sorcs, and 4 prubies for fire sorcs (though the diamond
shield should be enough to cover fire res, considering sorcs fire
skills dont cut through or reduce the % of res)
Charms: I had some average charms basically on this guy, mostly
single mod lifes, and a few frw grands, frw lcs, and scs(youll need
some speed to evade and run from strong melee chars). Also, make
sure you have 48 fhr(easier bp to reach at this lvl without
sacrificing life and mana too much), so use some charms to make up
for the fhr you dont have. I also had a few mana GCs, which with +90%
mana from 2 sojs and frosties, enough mana charms will boost mana
significantly. All the charms i was using were average, okay at best.
Well, i hope all this has helped, though the skill placement section
isnt very organized. As you can see, i had average gear and charms
for the foh build, and i was still pretty effective (i beat the
majority of my opponents, except for pub duelers and other lld that
had stacked lit res). So if one gathers all the right gear and
charms, the FoHer has the real potential to shine.
A note: Through dueling other FOHERs ive learned that having a higher
Conviction level than an other pally means that only yours applies;
Ie: I have 6 conviction and the other foher has 5, my conviction aura
will affect him, but his will not affect me( perhaps this hasnt been
discovered yet because of the fact that usually both pallies are
using the aura, so its hard to tell whether its taken effect or not,
besides the dmg, but they could have stacked res, thats why its
initially very hard to notice, but im glad i did). Anyway, with this
fact in mind, having +3 conviction on your scepter along with +3 foh
could greatly improve the build, along with making your conviction
higher than most other pallies, thus negating theirs if lower skill
lvl.
Id post my FOHERs dmg, FOH lvl, Conviction lvl, and stat pts, but ive stripped him so i cant recall. And what i wrote in about his equipment is from memory, when i get the proper items for him, be not suprised when you see this while dueling "XXXXXXXXXXX was killed by HandsofGawd"
Good Luck with your FOHer Voices,
Its a fun build
Eternally the worlds,
Jester of Hell
The Lighter Side of Evil.... (or am i the darker side of good?!!?)
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JesterofHell
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 5:11 pm Post subject:
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I completely forgot on my build that Holy Shield was lvl 5, and that i put one point into meditation for the mana regen when necessary(has helped quite a bit at times, flip it on quick when your totally outta mana, boom, enough for a next foh after a second or two) instead of having Holy Shield at lvl 6, this has helped the build... but feel free to distribute the pts as you like... just thought id tell ya =D
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Yahiko
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:06 am Post subject:
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Unless you plan on tanking, then holy shield is crap. Because the skills u can put into holy shield, you can put many into holy shock, and make your foh alot stronger, but hey your probably better than me. i'm just stating my opinion
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:25 am Post subject:
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Smooth, maybe you should have done your math Yahihihih or whatever, before saying some crap like that.
You have nothing better to max out than Holy Sheild, perhaps Vigor. You already have all of your important synergies maxed and one in each conviction and foh, with quite a few skills left over.
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VoicesLLD
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:54 am Post subject:
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thanks alot jester, this helps a ton.
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 8:49 pm Post subject:
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Good job on the guide. I think I have one of the few FOH pallies left in LLD. If you remake yours maybe we can duel someday.
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 12:23 am Post subject:
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im making mine right now. 16 more levels to go >.<
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:13 pm Post subject:
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i have a FOH pally on ladder so i cant afford sojs, but i have lvl 9 FOH and lvl 6 conviction and it just doesnt seem to hurt other duelers enough, too much running and casting
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:11 am Post subject:
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You need to increase your conviction skill level as well as FOH. I know that you are ladder so this can be tough to do. My FOH pally I believe is one of the best on US East. My FOH is level 12 and my Conviction is 9. I can go up to 15 on FOH and up to 11 on Conviction.
My advice is to increase your conviction as high as you can by shopping for a 2 to offensive, 3 to conviction septer if these adds or possible. The only other advice I can give you is to imbue a holy or war septer at level 30. Maybe you will get a good septer like mine. The problem with a FOH pally is that any good LLD will use orts to resit your attack. I was thinking of trying to get my Conviction to 15 and make them ort all of their gear.
I am on Useast nonladder so if you want to see my setup whisper ava_lld.
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:35 pm Post subject:
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Level 15 FoH at 30?
I'm guessing your setup is something like:
+2 combat circlet
+2 combat ammy
+2 combat +3 FoH scepter
2x SOJs
+2 combat shield
Vipermagi
692-767 Damage FoH, nice.
On a note to go with the guide: Charge + Meditation = best way to travel in a hurry, and if you space your charges out you won't drain your pool in 2.3 seconds.
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:57 pm Post subject:
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Dang Pansy you guessed my setup. I will reveal my septer to you. I think only Meitou has seen it before. It is 2 to combat, 3 to FOH , 2 to Conviction, and 3 to Holy Shock. It is a rare of couse. If you do not have good lightning resit it will get in about 2 or 3 FOH.
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:43 pm Post subject:
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you are a LLD foh god. i bow to you sir.
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:48 pm Post subject:
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Cough.. Perfect Topaz anyone?
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:52 pm Post subject:
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i stack about 150% light res myself....
what do u do with a 75% res AFTER conv, person?
smite em a bit inbetween?
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:46 pm Post subject:
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Spazz wrote: | Cough.. Perfect Topaz anyone? |
no ort rune.
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