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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject:  New Zon Hybrid proposal  

I was messin with the skill planner, and I was thinking of a Bow/CS Hybrid.
I was thinking of a level 19 GA/CS hybrid
Skills:

.::Pre-Reqs::.
Magic Arrow: 1
Cold Arrow: 1
Multiple Arrow: 1
Jab: 1
Psn Javelin: 1

.::Main Skills::.
Guided Arrow: 2 ( +20% damage)
Charged Strike: 2 (2-364 Lite dmg @ 4 bolts)

.::Synergies::.
Lightning Bolt: 8 ( 1-340 Lite Dmg)
Power Strike: 10 (1-968 Lite Dmg) ((In case you want to use these skills))

.::Passives::.
Dodge: 1 @ 34%
Avoid: 1 @ 41%
Critical Strike: 1 @ 38%

Gear:::::.
5os Stag bow (+3 B/CB skills) (4xMaxers + 1 Nef? or 5xMax?)
Maiden Java 10 IAS (+3 J/S skills)
3os Crown (3xMax jewels)
Imp Brow
Deaths Belt
+1 J/S 10 ias gloves
2xDex/Mana/Rep Life rings
VBSoD ( what do i put in sockets? i'll already have max block...)
Cow Kings Boots

Stats::.
Str: Enough for gear
Mana: 3/4 Remaining points (GA eats your mana alive)
Vita: Base
Dex: Rest into here

Critique?
I tested this zon on Hero and she turned out nicely, I'm just not sure how she'll hold up in pubs

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: New Zon Hybrid proposal  

Xbird97x wrote:
Maiden Java 10 IAS (+3 J/S skills)

Nope, those would be level 30 req at the bare minumum.

Xbird97x wrote:
VBSoD ( what do i put in sockets? i'll already have max block...)

If you can't think about what to put, consider using a Pelta Lunata.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:31 pm    Post subject:  

i don't think you'd have enough mana even with the stat points you put in it
i'd personally just put 3 perf sapphires in the crown

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:59 pm    Post subject:  

pelta has no dtm..
and i was thinkin of 2x12 DTM jewels..
and i'm pretty sure +3 java spawns on lvl 17 maiden javas

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject:  

Xbird97x wrote:
pelta has no dtm..
and i was thinkin of 2x12 DTM jewels..
and i'm pretty sure +3 java spawns on lvl 17 maiden javas

Ith runes give 15% dtm in shields.

Gheed wrote:
Xbird97x wrote:
Maiden Java 10 IAS (+3 J/S skills)

Nope, those would be level 30 req at the bare minumum.


In addition to what -bryan- has stated, with high dtm% and low mana, some of the dtm% is "wasted". The pelta suggestion was to increase your total mana (you can "ith" it) and you can find dtm/max jewels for the helm. You could even get lucky and get a good circlet.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject:  

to clarify gheeds post

magical/rare jav with +2jav staffMod = req 30 minimum
magical/rare jav with +3jav staffMod = req 45* minimum (i think 45)

plain white/grey jav with +1jav staffMod = req 17 minimum
plain white/grey jav with +2jav staffMod = req 17 minimum
plain white/grey jav with +3jav staffMod = req 17 minimum

if you have a magical staff with 10ias and +1jav u can have a +1jav staffmod and it will stay level 17,,,

this would only be a +2jav/10ias maiden at best...

if u go 30 then u can have a +4jav/10ias magical/rare maiden (+2jav mod with +2jav staffmod

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:29 pm    Post subject:  

ok now..
how successful do you think this build will be?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:43 pm    Post subject:  

well...should do decent. dont expect to beat a straight bow or straight jav. either should beat you, no matter the skill you use to duel them. for pub killing it will do great, esp when ppl start bitching about you using a bow on them.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:04 am    Post subject:  

Personally, i would only put 1 into GA and the other into a cs synergy. [youll need all the dmg you can get]

I wouldnt put saphires in the helm either. I think max jewels would be much better. 30 mana gc's with other mods are the way to go if you need mana at that lvl.

Also, what armor would you use? And why lvl 19, not 18?

I think the key to this build is building a cs-zon with a point in guided and then filling any spare sockets with dmg jewels...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject:  

ubermoose wrote:
Also, what armor would you use? And why lvl 19, not 18?

For the duped ammy.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:12 pm    Post subject:  

Gheed wrote:
ubermoose wrote:
Also, what armor would you use? And why lvl 19, not 18?

For the duped ammy.


what duped ammy..

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject:  

imp brow. 2 zon 2 barb 19 str 7/7 leech 23 all resist lvl 19.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject:  

yeah i'm gonna be a pubber
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:43 am    Post subject:  

go for it! if u belive it will be decent go go for it!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:41 pm    Post subject:  

Jerkazoid wrote:

if u go 30 then u can have a +4jav/10ias magical/rare maiden (+2jav mod with +2jav staffmod


I'm pretty sure you can get 30% ias at lvl 30 as well on a rare. I know for a fact maiden gives 20 cuz I got some...but, I think u can get 30 on maidens. Confused

The other feedback I'd give is that cs zons are very specialized and tough to build on a stand alone basis. So is a GA zon! Even pure GA zons have a hard time killing pvp at lld lvl. So, I'm guessing a hybrid would make them even weaker...but test it and let us know. Sounds interesting. I'm thinking zons would need to be mld lvl or higher to be decent hybrids.

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