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Visual Tactics · Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject:

Hello, I am new to this site and making a vlld ts sin as well and was wondering if anyone could help me out with some questions.

Voices, for your skill placement why did you put 9 claw mastery, 9 ts, 2 bos?
If you could explain your thinking? This is just because some guides i've seen
say to put 7 claw mastery, 9 ts, 4bos. Is it just overall better?

Also, would using deaths belt be better for the cannot be frozen?

Other guides i have seen also suggest you use 2x fhr gc's with bloodfists to make the 48% fhr breakpoint but i see many of you just use 15life lcs on your ts sins. Is it better to just stick with the life charms?

Any help would be appreciated Very Happy

B[x] · Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject:

The thread you posted this in wasn't intended for build advice, just already built TS Sin's stats. Because of this, I split your post from that thread and now you have your own thread.

Voices doesn't post here anymore that I can tell so I doubt he'll field your question personally. However, the reason he (and most) people do a 9/9/2 skill placement is because with Death's belt/glove combo, further points in BoS is useless. Play around with the weapon speed calculator found in this link and you'll see why.

As for FHR, one option is to use 3dex/10FHR/15AR boots along with one or two FHR/AR GCs (42 AR is max) to have 7 or 6 frame recovery, respectively. However, those boots are hard to come by so you'll probably have to settle for 3dex/10FHR boots. It's not really a big deal though, 15 AR isn't a huge amount. You can try going without FHR GCs and see what works best for you. It's all about finding a balance that works right with your character. Also, you may find that you need more FHR against certain characters that attack faster such as Jab Zons.

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B[x] · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:09 am Post subject:

Visual Tactics · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:05 am Post subject:

Alright, thanks a lot Smile

And would Hsarus' boots/belt combo be the best choice if I went Blade Talons with Bloodfists? But then I wouldn't get the Cannot Be Frozen mod, or is it necessary to have on a ts sin? If it is, my best choice would to to go with deaths belt with rare 10FHR, 3DEX boots?

B[x] · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:12 am Post subject:

It's debatable as to whether or not Death's belt is needed for the CBF. Some people will tell you that a half freeze duration mod on a ring or amulet will suffice. However, since I used Death's combo to hit 7 fpa, I didn't have to make that choice.

breakbeatz2 · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:46 am Post subject:

CBF isn't needed for most duels - half freeze duration is enough. For the duels where you do need it, just keep one in the stash.

Visual Tactics · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject:

heprea · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject:

Chewie · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject:

I think you should address the 7 frame vs 8 frame debate depending on your AR needs. If you have lower AR, then use hsarus and go for 8 frame. If you have good AR in jewels, then go with deaths. You should aim for your total AR being at the very least 1200.

breakbeatz2 · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject:

1 frame faster attack is always better than 90 AR. CBF is a nice bonus too.

Visual Tactics · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:29 pm Post subject:

Chewie · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:40 pm Post subject:

krajee · Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 6579 9.68 Silvarrr

Visual Tactics · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject: